View Poll Results: The Source of Black Poverty?

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  • The culture-of-poverty option

    22 37.93%
  • The black culture option

    21 36.21%
  • The racism exists option

    11 18.97%
  • All three, with some lean towards 1 & 2

    8 13.79%
  • Any combo, including government

    16 27.59%
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    14 24.14%
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Thread: The Source of Black Poverty

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    In tribal African societies, Males often have multiple partners and tend to be nomadic family partners. This, when translated into a western culture means many single mothers and limited father influence. After several generations of this pattern repeating itself and the nomadic lifestyle being limited by the "New" society and culture, a stagnant and dissatisfied male becomes the norm. The males in Black culture are responsible for most of the poverty....though the female no longer functions well either.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    The main cause of Black poverty is the fact that most Black people don't have much money.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Why wouldn't I? Ghetto blacks and trailer park whites share several traits - and skin color isn't one.
    You're pulling at the thread of the lowest common denominator, like mob violence. There is a certain familiarity with 'the devil you know' factor and 'ignorance is comfort', but it's not common enough to account for the sheer volume of poor in a wealthy society.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    I'd tend to reject the racism arguments. I also view the writer's final argument with a large degree of skepticism:

    "Finally, consider this: The poverty level in the Hispanic community was 33 percent in 2012. In 1970, the figure was 24.3 percent. Poverty is entrenched in the Hispanic community. Do we blame black culture? Latino culture?"

    One off-hand reason I could see to help explain higher poverty rates among hispanics is increased illegal immigration. Not sure if that is a supportable reason, but that was my gut reaction.

    I find the following interesting as well:

    "Believing that black culture is primarily at fault means believing that black cultural attitudes are why the black unemployment rate has always been at least 50 percent higher than white unemployment."

    The writer makes several unsupported assumptions in the above quote which deserve to be challenged:
    1) That if you believe black culture is primarily at fault today, you believe it has always been the primary cause.
    2) It assumes that black culture has remained relatively static throughout history.

    The first assumption is a logical fallacy and leaves no middle ground. For example, someone may believe that racism was the sole cause of the inequalities observed in the 1940's while still believing that black culture may be the cause of the worsening inequality today.

    While I'm not intricately familiar with the history of "black culture," the second assumption seems unlikely to be true.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    What about redneck or hillbilly trailer folk? We can all notice certain factual traits but are looking for possible answers to what causes certain cultural conditions?
    well now, I caint speak for all red hill trail folk but being an amalgamation of the lot ,I do feel as though I have access to the aforementioned factual traits and causes of my unique and personal cultural conditions. the truth of the matter is i just dont give a f**k! wadda ya reckon?

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think the article is not trying to address the factual aspects that poverty can create unfortunate circumstances, low education and less opportunity. It's more of a piece on what, if anything, can society do as a whole, to help diminish the ranks of the poor by understanding the cultural differences and causes.
    Imo, we can't diminish it by understanding the cultural differences and causes. That information is all well and good to have, but understanding doesn't fix problems. Actions fix problems.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The main cause of Black poverty is the fact that most Black people don't have much money.
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    STUDY: Single Women Of Color Age 36-49 Have Median Wealth Of Just $5
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    The root of poverty, in general, is in fixed supply of space/resources. Resolve that issue and you pretty much end poverty as we know it.

    Compared to other groups, blacks seem to be hit hardest economically. I think a mix of racism and culture plays a role here. While the Irish, Polish, Italians, Jews, etc have all faced discrimination in the United States (and elsewhere), it was generally easier for them blend into society and move up the socio-economic ladder. A black person cannot simply shed their skin for a more "acceptable" color. There is also the issue of dependency culture. From slavery to modern times, blacks have been in servitude to whites. That slavery today is much more subtle, but it can be seen through how the western govts, banks and corporations have operated within Africa. That foreign corruption breeds more domestic corruption (dictators/warlords take power) and the cycle becomes almost unbreakable.

    Of course, the 'black culture' we see today does not help the situation. However, I see it more as a symptom of a socio-economic crisis rather than a cause.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Imo, we can't diminish it by understanding the cultural differences and causes. That information is all well and good to have, but understanding doesn't fix problems. Actions fix problems.

    Yea, but you have to understand enough to know what actions to take. Maybe, we as a society have done the best we can, maybe we've got a long ways to go, only time will tell. I do believe to say, "they're all lazy" or that "it's all racism" is way too simplistic and negative to help.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty




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