View Poll Results: The Source of Black Poverty?

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  • The culture-of-poverty option

    22 37.93%
  • The black culture option

    21 36.21%
  • The racism exists option

    11 18.97%
  • All three, with some lean towards 1 & 2

    8 13.79%
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    16 27.59%
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    14 24.14%
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Thread: The Source of Black Poverty

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded is the primary reason I don't give any specific cultural group a free pass. Many of our immigrants come here with barely a pot to piss in, and somehow, many of them manage to succeed, in spite of language barriers and cultural barriers.
    I'm not saying anyone has a free pass, it was an example of a group of people who typically hold a different cultural norm and who typically succeed because of it. It's not in their genes, it's in their sub-culture. Now if we could get blacks to do the same thing, they wouldn't have so many problems.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Why (If it was possible.) would anyone want to try to equalize intelligence?

    How would this help humanity?

    Explain that to us if you can.
    Cannot.

    Would explain your problems though.
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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Cannot.

    Would explain your problems though
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    What problems?

    I don't have any problems. I'm retired and enjoying my life.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    IMO, the source of 'black' poverty is a lack of integration.

    'Blacks' should be integrating with other 'races' FAR more then they do.

    Stop grouping only with other 'blacks', move out of 'black ghetto's' and into better areas...even if it means sharing apartments to get by at first.
    Now that's FUNNY. It seems that the people in Toronto feel the exact reverse method is the solution:

    Back-to-school had a new twist for more than 100 students in Toronto on Tuesday as an Africentric alternative school opened its doors for the first time.

    The black-focused school has sparked controversy, with opponents saying it smacks of segregation.

    Supporters of the Africentric Alternative School maintain that it's important for children to understand their history and culture. They also point to a 40 per cent school dropout rate among black students.

    "This will be an example of how we take the African experience and integrate it much more meaningfully and much more substantially into all areas of learning," said Lloyd McKell of the Toronto District School Board. . . .

    The schools were created after parents banded together and lobbied school trustees.

    At least the US can point to historic cultural problems, but Canada didn't have a sizable black community until Trudeau started importing black immigrants. Canadians can't point to Jim Crow or slavery as the problems behind a 40% drop-out rate.

    You're saying the solution is more integration. The black parents in Toronto are saying no, not integration, but segregation is the solution.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Now that's FUNNY. It seems that the people in Toronto feel the exact reverse method is the solution:

    Back-to-school had a new twist for more than 100 students in Toronto on Tuesday as an Africentric alternative school opened its doors for the first time.

    The black-focused school has sparked controversy, with opponents saying it smacks of segregation.

    Supporters of the Africentric Alternative School maintain that it's important for children to understand their history and culture. They also point to a 40 per cent school dropout rate among black students.

    "This will be an example of how we take the African experience and integrate it much more meaningfully and much more substantially into all areas of learning," said Lloyd McKell of the Toronto District School Board. . . .

    The schools were created after parents banded together and lobbied school trustees.

    At least the US can point to historic cultural problems, but Canada didn't have a sizable black community until Trudeau started importing black immigrants. Canadians can't point to Jim Crow or slavery as the problems behind a 40% drop-out rate.

    You're saying the solution is more integration. The black parents in Toronto are saying no, not integration, but segregation is the solution.

    LOL.

    You know, I was going to put in my post 'right about now, racists will be fuming at my post'.

    And then you show up...LOL.

    BTW - I skipped reading your post - if you cannot answer my simple questions for you, I see no reason why I should waste my time reading your racist dribble...except when I want a laugh.


    Good day.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    You left off the history of African-Americans from your list, didn't you?

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    anonymous polls suck!



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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    Historically and thru today, the two races that have done worse within the United States are the two races that never wanted to be part of the United States - African-Americans brought here as slaves and Native Americans who were slaughtered, defeated, and subjugated - both deposed of their land or taken from it.

    The extreme bigotries, injustices, denial of equality, and both institutional and social abuse of both African-Americans and Native Americans is NOT ancient history of past generations now dead. That level of earned hatred does not simply vanish by declaring "we're all equal now" - when the oppressors start with 99% and the oppressed start with 1%.

    There are Native Americans and African-Americans that TRULY HATE white people. While white people can say "Hey, it's all equal now" - that doesn't really work when the person claiming "all is equal" is who is who stole everything you had.

    The commander of the Japanese POW camp that did such acts of torture, brutality and murder declared when the war was over "we call can be friends now." No, the prisoners threw him down a well to leave him there to slowly die of starvation in a black wet hole. Injustice isn't just erased with a declaration of "let's all be pals now."

    Native American culture is far more unknown and diverse than African-American culture, and NA culture was never merged with white American culture. Nor were there genocides, sterilization campaigns, and mass relocations of African-Americans. There are Native Americans that, given the chance, would not hesitate to kill white people. Doesn't matter their age or the reason - other than they are white.

    African-Americans do have reasons to be bitter and feel cheated - because they were and they are. Where I differ, though, is that hate serves no purpose. I have been in a few short arguments over "integrating into the dominate culture" with other NAs - short because I don't give a damn. DEFEATED people who are permanent defeated - as are peoples brought here as slaves and Native Americans - only have one non-self destructive alternative and that is to integrate into reality and the culture they really are in - which is the culture created by white America.

    The good news is that MOST of white America is more than willing to allow such equal integration for those willing to do their half of it. Some will even give extra breaks to make it easy to do so. Hell, I'm a damn near superstar among white people. Everyone can PROVE they aren't a bigot merely by being able to say I'm one of their friends. In some regards, I can actually market it.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    A real failure of the current educational system is that it teaches people to live to dogmatic slogans and ideologies - rather than pragmatic reality. Schools - nor most parents - teach their children how to play the cards in life they actual have and how to constantly be improving their hand in the game of life.

    Take jobs, for example. The military has ALWAYS been the best road for people out of poverty. However, the competition to go into the military is becoming very competitive. The military increasingly is adding disqualifiers.

    Do schools teach about those? How many high school kids know if they get at tattoo they are barred from military service? How many parents know if they put their kid on ANY type of psyche or behavior drug, or even just an inhaler, their child loses that option for employment?

    Schools and society no longer teach people how to succeed in the COMPETITION of life - and that's what it is. Certainly is economically. Rather, they teach feel-good nice platitudes and ideology. And then the kid suddenly is 18 and with NO CLUE about actual reality.

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    Re: The Source of Black Poverty

    The source of black poverty is a lack of black daddies.

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