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    Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    With this proposal Medicare would be supported by the payroll tax as it is today and premiums paid to the Federal Government. Individual states could opt-out from the Federal System as long as they offer a single-payer system. States that opted out of the Federal system would get the moneys from the payroll tax paid to the federal system.

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With this proposal Medicare would be supported by the payroll tax as it is today and premiums paid to the Federal Government. Individual states could opt-out from the Federal System as long as they offer a single-payer system. States that opted out of the Federal system would get the moneys from the payroll tax paid to the federal system.
    I voted yes. I'd amend it to "Yes, I think so," if I could.

    Since I don't understand what the full ramifications might be, I could change my mind in a heartbeat if others more knowledgeable had good reasons for it not working.

    Seems to me that the infrastructure was already in place . . . no pre-existing conditions; supplements sold outside of the government model. I'm not sure about their reimbursement rates, though. Most doctors/hospitals accept Medicare because old people spend a lot more on healthcare than younger ones. So lower reimbursements may amount to a "quantity discount". *shrug*

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Absolutely, yes.

    I would also point out that a great many other liberals feel the same way.

    That's why poll after poll shows that a majority of Americans don't like Obamacare, but are in favor of health insurance reform.
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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Medicare/aid is the largest source of fraud in US history.

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Do me a favor, break out your federal budget and look at Medicare revenue and Medicare expenditures. It's not to late to change your vote.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I voted yes. I'd amend it to "Yes, I think so," if I could.

    Since I don't understand what the full ramifications might be, I could change my mind in a heartbeat if others more knowledgeable had good reasons for it not working.

    Seems to me that the infrastructure was already in place . . . no pre-existing conditions; supplements sold outside of the government model. I'm not sure about their reimbursement rates, though. Most doctors/hospitals accept Medicare because old people spend a lot more on healthcare than younger ones. So lower reimbursements may amount to a "quantity discount". *shrug*

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Do me a favor, break out your federal budget and look at Medicare revenue and Medicare expenditures. It's not to late to change your vote.
    Yeah, well, there's that.

    I know . . . the model includes huge HUGE deficits. That'd have to be fixed.

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    The ratio of expenditures to revenues would be much lower for younger beneficiaries. You can't really compare the cost of providing health coverage to a 75 year old with a history of heart disease to providing coverage to a 30 year old.
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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    I think the government should be providing full healthcare to children/the disabled (people that usually cannot help themselves) that need it...and everyone else on an emergency basis only (including seniors after a gradual Medicare reduction over the next 30+ years).

    If able-bodied adults want full coverage they can earn it.

    And drastically reduce medical insurance regulations to encourage free enterprise competition that will lower costs.

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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With this proposal Medicare would be supported by the payroll tax as it is today and premiums paid to the Federal Government. Individual states could opt-out from the Federal System as long as they offer a single-payer system. States that opted out of the Federal system would get the moneys from the payroll tax paid to the federal system.
    I voted yes, but as the question was simplistic I consider my vote to be simplistic as well. I favor this idea, even though it goes against what I would normally believe, but I would have to see details of the plan. I wouldn't support just any proposal put forth.
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    Re: Would You Support Replacing PPACA with Medicare for All?

    Quote Originally Posted by sedan View Post
    Absolutely, yes.

    I would also point out that a great many other liberals feel the same way.

    That's why poll after poll shows that a majority of Americans don't like Obamacare, but are in favor of health insurance reform.
    There has never been any question about this. I don't know about Medicare as a solution for all.
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