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  • It's wrong to date and have children with other races

    3 2.44%
  • It depends on the race

    1 0.81%
  • Interracial couples and children are completely acceptable to me

    113 91.87%
  • I have mixed feelings

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Thread: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Questions are not evidence.
    Questions in themselves are not evidence. Not being able to answer the questions that I asked certainly indicate that the person putting forward the evidence has not considered the research very carefully. Science is not easy.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    This is childish. I have posed some reasonable, objective questions that have not been answered. Anyone that's actually done serious scientific research will understand.

    I rest my case your honor.
    All scientists ask questions. That's the name of the game. That's fine.

    What you're doing is subtly different. The fact that you ask questions doesn't mean that you have the better case, or better position. For that to happen you have to falsify the opposing position. That's how you make a better case.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Questions in themselves are not evidence. Not being able to answer the questions that I asked certainly indicate that the person putting forward the evidence has not considered the research very carefully. Science is not easy.
    No one has a duty to answer your questions. Do you have any evidence to present or not?

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    All scientists ask questions. That's the name of the game. That's fine.

    What you're doing is subtly different. The fact that you ask questions doesn't mean that you have the better case, or better position. For that to happen you have to falsify the opposing position. That's how you make a better case.
    That's right they ask questions and that's what I'm doing. I honestly can't say that I know for a fact that the conclusion is false. What I can say is that based on what has been put forward here so far, that research is suspect.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    No one has a duty to answer your questions. Do you have any evidence to present or not?
    We are going around in circles. If you can't answer the questions, just say so.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Your posts are just mindless silliness. Understand also that presentation of a continual high degree of self-righteous anger has no bearing whatsoever on the merits of your arguments. Even if you had any arguments.
    Sorry, but what is mindless, silliness is that you can't understand that I made an assertion. What is that? My assertion is that, based on what has been put forward here, the research that was presented is suspect. My evidence is that fact that no one could provide answers to the questions that I asked. Those were reasonable, objective questions that anyone who was seriously examining the research would ask.

    If you don't understand that, then you are the one who is mindless and silly, not me.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That's right they ask questions and that's what I'm doing. I honestly can't say that I know for a fact that the conclusion is false. What I can say is that based on what has been put forward here so far, that research is suspect.
    If you believe the research to be suspect you have to explain why. You have to actually show a failing. I'm going on memory here regarding the back and forth between you and Gatjhomas88 but what I recall was you asking for Gathomas88 to answer your questions about how the sample was constructed and so on. That's not good enough. If you were on the peer review committee that looked at that paper, then you could ask that question to the researcher but gathomas is not that guy, he doesn't have access to that information. This doesn't weaken his case and thereby strengthen your case.

    You're entirely free to see the research as suspect but that feeling of yours carries no weight in a debate. Why not track down the published study, instead of the pop science media take on the study, read that study and see if you see flaws in the real deal? If you want answers then that's probably the first place to look.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    If you believe the research to be suspect you have to explain why. You have to actually show a failing.
    What I have said is simple to understand. There should be an answer to the questions that I asked. What has been put forward here as sources do not answer the questions and neither can the persons putting the evidence forward. That is a failing.

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You might have missed my earlier post that spurred that whole exchange with Agent J.... but, in a nutshell: I answered the OP that I myself have dated women of other races (I'm white, by the way), and when I see a white man with a woman of another race, I think "good for him."

    When I see a white woman with a man of another race, though, my initial gut reaction is negative. Also, I typically assume that there's something wrong with her: maybe she has a bad reputation, maybe she has an STD, maybe she's really awkward and doesn't have any friends, something like that.

    I admitted that my negative gut reaction to seeing white women with men of other races was not something I decided on consciously, so I'm not really sure what the reason for it is.

    Like I said, maybe I am a racist and just don't realize it.

    However, I happen to believe it's something else. I think I get the most pleasure out of seeing couples where the man reminds me of myself, and the least pleasure out of seeing couples where the man is very different from me. For example, if I see a beautiful woman with an older man, I get a negative gut reaction. If I see a beautiful woman with a very short man, I get a negative reaction. If I see a woman with a foreign man (regardless of race), I get a negative gut reaction. If I see a beautiful woman with a man who looks/sounds like me, I literally feel joy.

    I would say it comes down to me having an enormous ego and wanting every beautiful woman in the world to fawn over me, and no other man. Ego and sexual possessiveness.

    I suppose I see men of other races as dissimilar to myself. One exception, though: my friends who are black and asian - if they date white women I'm legitimately happy for them. I want the people in my circle to have the very best things in life and if that's what makes them happy, I wish it for them.
    In part, I have to commend you for being honest.

    Tell me what you think of this. "Negative reaction" is somewhat vague. A lot of things can fall under that umbrella. But when you add the details of that negative reaction with regard to seeing a white woman with a man from another race specifically-

    Also, I typically assume that there's something wrong with her: maybe she has a bad reputation, maybe she has an STD, maybe she's really awkward and doesn't have any friends, something like that.
    It gets a little more interesting because of the assumptions you are making, at a gut level, about the woman and the quality of the man she is being seen with. Is it only beautiful women that you react to in this way? Do you pursue that any further? Do you question the validity of those assumptions at all?
    "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers" - Voltaire
    "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self" -Hemingway

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    Re: Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Interracial couples and children are completely acceptable to me, we are all really of only one race, the human race. I do however, lament that one day we will all be an amalgamation of all races and so the distinct differences between the races, that which helps make life interesting, may completely evaporate.

    How bland would that be?
    reminds me of a science fiction book - because everyone had blended, they bio-engineered some "all white", "all black", "all oriental" kids and raised them in enclaves where the caretakers wore disguises to look like they were the same race... it had gotten too boring, so they wanted some variety.. .

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