It's wrong to date and have children with other races
It depends on the race
Interracial couples and children are completely acceptable to me
I have mixed feelings
I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.
Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.
Anyways I don't want to work through all of the problems, I want to say that sometimes we have to work with the best info available. It's usually better than not having any info. And then of course there is TacticalEvilDan's point that info isn't necessary - we should be satisfied with just knowing the principles people espouse.
Specifically I asked the following
You can't answer that question because you don't know. There is nothing racist about that question. It is objective and has an answer. You just don't know it because you don't appear to understand how such research is conducted. And that's ok, there is nothing wrong with that. But what is wrong, is that when someone asks you questions, you respond that the person is accusing you a racism. It's total rubbish.First of all, how did the researcher compile the data sample. In other words it's practically impossible to examine every black women, so they had to pick some. How did they pick them?
Next of all I pointed out the following
That's an objective question and one that has an answer. But again, you don't know the answer. You pointed to another source, but you did not demonstrate that the criteria in your source were actually used in that research. Again, it appears you don't know what you are talking about. Either that or you don't understand the question that is being asked.Next of all, the study is based on an individual's perception of attractiveness. I could see no objective criteria established for measuring attractiveness.
But in the case of attractiveness, that is something that will be very hard, because it tends to vary from person to person
Then next of all what's attractive does vary from person to person. And an accurate, objective measure of physical attractiveness would take this variance into account. Although it would be very difficult, it's not impossible. For example consider these two well know celebrities:
I can tell you this, you give me the choice to pick who I want to bone, and 7 times out of 10 I'm going with Serena. And that mostly has to do with whats going on from the backside. But someone like you would have no interest in Serena at all. I'm not sure, but in your eyes you may prefer the rear view that Paris has to offer. Definitely not me!
If I felt it was okay to discriminate against others because of their race, and even though I protested that I personally didn't discriminate that it was acceptable if others did so, I would conclude that I have a problem, because allowing racism to flourish in a society because it doesn't affect me and I can't be bothered by those who are affected is, in my mind, a very real problem.
You seem to disagree.
Here is what we do know: I made a claim that scientific research had been conducted which supported the assertion that black females were generally found to be less attractive than those of other races. In support of this claim, a scientific study was provided which confirmed every part of my initial claim.
Unless you can provide a valid, factually derived reason why it should be viewed in any other way, that study can be considered to come from a reputable, academic source (The American Psychological Association). The study in question also consistently demonstrated that a variety of male and female observers from numerous different races in a controlled environment found black females to be, on average, less physically attractive than those of other races.
That is where my obligation to you here ends. It's not my job to prove the legitimacy of a source to you simply because you dislike what it happens to say.
If you want to argue that the study in question or its findings are invalid, the burden of proof is going to be on you to prove it. No one else.
Vague allegations of wrong doing with nothing to back them up simply aren't going to cut it.
"Maybe the sample was biased."
"Maybe the researchers conducting the study just disliked black people."
"Maybe there is no valid definition of attractiveness."
Sorry buddy, but "maybe" isn't worth of a hill of beans. Stop dropping hypotheticals, and find something to criticize which can actually be shown to be a part of the damn study, or just concede the point already.
This is freshman level stuff here.
Last edited by Gathomas88; 03-31-14 at 08:24 PM.
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