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Am I a better person now that my income has increased?

Am I a better person now that my income has increased?

  • Yes, you did the right things to make that happen.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes (other explanation)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
Increased assery correlates with increased income. I've watched it thousands of times. People start at low salary and are ok people, they get promoted and become a little convinced by their own publicity, promoted again they become egotistic smug pricks and the more money they get the more they generate inflated self worth and see everyone else's lack thereof. They lose any concept of doing anything decent. They do what is asked of them, take the money and are thoroughly nasty people who lie continually just in the course of any day.

They also become very, very boring company.
Any time you have seen something "thousands of times" and it has had negative results...at SOME point you MIGHT want to consider the common element might not be the wealth and success or even the 'others'...but...maybe...well...you know...

you.
 
No offense but the OP is dumb. Who ever said a better income makes you a better person? You have a better house drive a better car etc but better person?

See the post in this thread written by Cardinal. Turtledude, Mistervitis, Cephus and Lizzie are a few more that might believe that way. I'm sure I left a dozen names off of the list.
 
Depends on how you earned the money. If you worked hard, then you deserved it.

I don't work any more or any less. I was always willing to put forth the effort. Someone just hired me for a part time job and someone gave my wife a raise. It wasn't anything that I done at all. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 
"It's better to give than to receive."

I have always done both. I will continue to do both. Nothing changed about my attitude towards giving or receiving.
 
Your premise is inappropriate.

Money will make you neither a better person nor will it make you a worse person.

Who are the people you know that have told you this?

One person in my personal life. Many people in this thread. Of course they never direct it at me. They direct it generally about people like me.

They generalize that all people with low incomes are scum bags. If those scum bags get job offers for more money, they always take them. This makes little sense to me. This is the ideology that I am trying to challenge.
 
Increased assery correlates with increased income. I've watched it thousands of times. People start at low salary and are ok people, they get promoted and become a little convinced by their own publicity, promoted again they become egotistic smug pricks and the more money they get the more they generate inflated self worth and see everyone else's lack thereof. They lose any concept of doing anything decent. They do what is asked of them, take the money and are thoroughly nasty people who lie continually just in the course of any day.

They also become very, very boring company.

Imagine what a person would be like if they always had an above average income.
 
Actually yes it is. Even the "evil" Walmart starting pay is around $8 an hour with yearly raises, and most other unskilled jobs pay even higher.

Who said I worked at Walmart? Walmart isn't the sole employer of all low income workers. You miss out on a lot of reality. Go back to your bubble. It seems lovely there.

My primary job is at a hotel in a beach community with less than 20 employees. I make $8.25 for 38 hours per week. Some of the people that I work with make $7.75 an hour and work less than 8 hours per week during winter months. Yes, less than 8 hours per week.

Walmart :roll:
 
That's how much my boss pays me. Is it really that big of a mystery?

Fun fact: The minimum wage in the United States is $7.25 an hour. If a person works 20 hours per week that equals $7,540 per year. Yes, some people make $7,540 per year and even less.

I don't think I understand where you are coming from with this. Your claim is that you are poor and a good person; okay, I get that. There is nothing wrong with a person who gives an honest days work for an honest days pay. But it's not like you don't have other choices is it; you get paid what they pay you but you aren't claiming that you are being forced to stay in that lower paying job are you? You always have the ability to improve your skill sets and seek even better jobs don't you?
 
Any time you have seen something "thousands of times" and it has had negative results...at SOME point you MIGHT want to consider the common element might not be the wealth and success or even the 'others'...but...maybe...well...you know...

you.

Fortunately, I'm not the topic:2wave::2razz:...though I have seen you may be the common element in making personal...oh never mind..
 
Imagine what a person would be like if they always had an above average income.

Insular and unaware of the realities of life.

My friend is a lawyer who made his career decision because his older brother went through law school the year before and already had all the books, that is how lazy.... His exam results mean he could do anything he wanted and he almost became a doctor, as his parents are. He hates being a lawyer, it's just a job to him. Imagine having to go to him for defence, if your life depended on it. Then my cousin who always wanted to be a criminal lawyer, once she mixed with the people she required to defend, she swiftly moved to another area of law.
 
Fortunately, I'm not the topic:2wave::2razz:...though I have seen you may be the common element in making personal...oh never mind..
" Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
Increased assery correlates with increased income. I've watched it thousands of times."

Your words.

At some point...maybe its not 'everyone else'...just sayin....
 
" Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
Increased assery correlates with increased income. I've watched it thousands of times."

Your words.

At some point...maybe its not 'everyone else'...just sayin....

I heard you the first time and it's you.

It's not everyone, nor is it me, it's the impact of money. Once people have it, they often change. If you disagree, do share your reasons.
 
Who said I worked at Walmart? Walmart isn't the sole employer of all low income workers. You miss out on a lot of reality. Go back to your bubble. It seems lovely there.

My primary job is at a hotel in a beach community with less than 20 employees. I make $8.25 for 38 hours per week. Some of the people that I work with make $7.75 an hour and work less than 8 hours per week during winter months. Yes, less than 8 hours per week.

Walmart :roll:

You must meet many - interesting - people.
 
I don't think I understand where you are coming from with this. Your claim is that you are poor and a good person; okay, I get that. There is nothing wrong with a person who gives an honest days work for an honest days pay. But it's not like you don't have other choices is it; you get paid what they pay you but you aren't claiming that you are being forced to stay in that lower paying job are you? You always have the ability to improve your skill sets and seek even better jobs don't you?

Did you read the opening post? My base household income is now $45,422 per year. If that is poor then you and I live on completely different planets. We will never understand each other.

My base annual income as of March 18, 2014 = $16,302
My wife's base income as of March 18, 2014 = $13,500

Total income = $29,802.00

My base annual income as of March 19, 2014 = $16,302
My wife's base income as of March 19, 2014 = $18,720
Additional source of income as of March 20, 2014 = $10,400

Total income = $45,422.

In the course of 2 days my household income jumped by $15,622.

How does this make me a better person than I was 2 days prior? I don't get it. My eligibility for many government benefits vanished. Does this make me a better person from a moral perspective? If so, what was I doing wrong before this happened? What was I doing right that caused this to happen? How did my character change just in the course of 2 days?

I voted for the third option but I know lots of people believe that scum bags have low incomes and good people have high incomes.

Perhaps this exercise will allow them the opportunity to explain their world view.
 
.....but now you're giving more and receiving less.

More than likely but that doesn't mean I was unwilling to do that when my income was lower. I'm still the same person.
 
I heard you the first time and it's you.

It's not everyone, nor is it me, it's the impact of money. Once people have it, they often change. If you disagree, do share your reasons.

Dave Ramsey says that more money will magnify what you already are. If you were a jerk, you will become a bigger jerk. If you were generous, you will become more generous. If you were frugal, you will become more frugal. If you were sad, you will become more sad.

He said that money just acts as a magnifying glass. That's Dave Ramsey's theory. I think you are saying something similar.
 
You must meet many - interesting - people.

It's a very fun job. I met a crazy lady from Wisconsin that fears odd numbers and has a goal of running a half-marathon in every single state. She stayed at our hotel to run in her 13th state.

I should probably be paying my boss for allowing me to come here. It's a great job. I do love it. My new part time gig doesn't interfere with my primary job. That's a plus too.
 
Did you read the opening post? My base household income is now $45,422 per year. If that is poor then you and I live on completely different planets. We will never understand each other.

I guess it depends on where one lives. $45K would not go very far in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Washington or California. My combined annual household income is between $200-250K and we are very much in the lower middle class strata of the economic spectrum where we live.

Would you describe your household income as "working class" where you live, or "lower middle class"? From what you described your income as it would fall into the category commonly known as "working poor" where I am from, hence my comment. No offense intended.
 
I heard you the first time and it's you.

It's not everyone, nor is it me, it's the impact of money. Once people have it, they often change. If you disagree, do share your reasons.
Actually...You made it be about 'you' when you stated you had seen it thousands of times to people you know. You...of course...being the common element. Maybe its...you.
 
I guess it depends on where one lives. $45K would not go very far in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Washington or California. My combined annual household income is between $200-250K and we are very much in the lower middle class strata of the economic spectrum where we live.

Would you describe your household income as "working class" where you live, or "lower middle class"? From what you described your income as it would fall into the category commonly known as "working poor" where I am from, hence my comment. No offense intended.

My income went up by 52.412589759%. If your numbers are accurate. This would be equivalent to your income jumping to somewhere between $304,825 - $381,031 per year.

By the way. We live on different planets. I would not consider my income middle class. I would consider it working class. Is that equivalent to being poor?
 
I started my adult life poor as dirt. Now that I am financially well off I have far more admiration for young people struggling to get ahead than I do for kids right out of college buying a home I couldn't afford until I was 40. You should have to pay your dues, THAT makes you a better person.
 
Actually...You made it be about 'you' when you stated you had seen it thousands of times to people you know. You...of course...being the common element. Maybe its...you.

You are a hero. You are great at psychoanalysis :congrats: Now. Please stop with the harrassment and insults. They are completely irrelevant to the discussion. Just enjoy your status as a superior human being in silence like most adults.
 
kids right out of college buying a home I couldn't afford until I was 40.

Did you see this happen prior to October 2008 or after October 2008? I doubt that you know anybody that was under the age of 28 on March 30, 2014 that actually done this.
 
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