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Should college students be able to unionize?

I don't agree with college players getting paid nor do I see a need for a union but they definitely should be able to if they choose.
 
So around $40k at minimum is just not enough? By this thought, I should've stopped doing well in school and just practiced sports my whole life. Could make a living in college alone

Considering the going rate in many football leagues is much more than that, no it isn't.
 
I think they're part student but not fully and part professional athlete but not fully. With regular students, education comes first. With NCAA student athletes playing ball and winning games comes first.
They most certainly are not professional athletes. If they were they would be employees.

Playing and winning games is their study, it helps them build their skill for their career. What is so special about people that play games for amusement that they ought to be payed for their education?

Couches get money because the university pays them to coach their students. They get posted what they are worth.

They answer to a coach who is often a millionaire and sometimes a multi-millionaire.
If students that play games for amusement were couches they would make millions also. They aren't employees they are consumers. The coach is an employee.

The schools fill up stadiums and arena grossing millions per game. The schools have seven figure athletic shoe endorsements. The school gets TV ad revenue and sells team apparel. I just think its only fair for the students to get something and I'm okay with squirrelling all away in a Roth IRA or something similar.
They get plenty. Free education and possibility to be selected for the pros. I am okay with them getting the way more than generous perks they get already. Giving them money would turn colleges into a professional game playing league. The millions that they make on amusement games ifs reinvested into the school. The players get. plenty of compensation. A free degree.
 
That's just not enough.

Well they don't have to play ball. Why should they get payed for being students? If they want to earn money theycan drop playing games or take out a loan, or get a job.

There is no reason to pay them. They are students. No other student is payed for their labor.
 
Considering the going rate in many football leagues is much more than that, no it isn't.

Considering how few athletes become professional athletes... they're still there for college. They're given benefits to do things other than college. How that isn't enough you'll have to explain.
 
Since it is targeting student athletes, I am in hopelessly in the middle. On one hand, I think that they receive decent compensation by having their tuition and living fees addressed (that's a substantial sum of money per year). With the steady rise in tuition, student fees, program fees, book fees or any other feeds, this is a big burden that has been lifted from their shoulders. I'd hardly like to further reward sports, when I think it has a disproportionate focus on the university system as it is. Unless the funds can come from other efforts, that's just yet another excuse to make it difficult for other programs to justify their existing budgets.

On the other hand, the program and the university enormously profit from their efforts. Student athletes also face crippling injury and medical fees and less time to complete their studies.
 
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Considering how few athletes become professional athletes... they're still there for college. They're given benefits to do things other than college. How that isn't enough you'll have to explain.

Because they are putting their body on the line. They are risking life long bodily harm and the schools are benefiting greatly. The least they could do is pay for their medical bills. It's that simple.
 
I personally think it's way too much. They get free education, free housing and they get to play games.

The school is making so much more money off of them it's ridiculous. The fact that their medical bills related to their time playing the game isn't paid for by the schools is ridiculous.
 
And the administartors laugh all the way to the bank.
This is a decades old problem, similar to Curt Flood in Major League Baseball.
Time to boycott NCAA basketball right now and football in the fall .
I personally think it's way too much. They get free education, free housing and they get to play games.
 
The school is making so much more money off of them
Why shouldn't the schools make money off of the students? It's a business.

it's ridiculous.
I don't think it's one bit ridiculous. The money is reinvested into the school.school.

The fact that their medical bills related to their time playing the game isn't paid for by the schools is ridiculous.
They don't have to choose that hobby. They can go for photography, or engineering, veterinary medicine.

If I get hurt talking photos for photography class the college doesn't pay my bills.

I think it's great the school makes millions they can offer better education to students who pursue real jobs.
 
The school is making so much more money off of them it's ridiculous. The fact that their medical bills related to their time playing the game isn't paid for by the schools is ridiculous.

They choose to do it though. The school is not forcing them to play the sport. It would be nice if the school did, however it would be wrong to legislate it as a necessity. It would also likely translate to higher costs for other students or perhaps less full athletic scholarships.
 
You should hear the horror stories of what the football players are shot up with for five years.
On the offensive lines this year in bowl games, ALL players were wearing knee braces .
Because they are putting their body on the line. They are risking life long bodily harm and the schools are benefiting greatly. The least they could do is pay for their medical bills. It's that simple.
 
Why shouldn't the schools make money off of the students? It's a business.

I don't think it's one bit ridiculous. The money is reinvested into the school.school.

They don't have to choose that hobby. They can go for photography, or engineering, veterinary medicine.

If I get hurt talking photos for photography class the college doesn't pay my bills.

I think it's great the school makes millions they can offer better education to students who pursue real jobs.

Ah, so you just don't give a **** about these kids. Got it.
 
They choose to do it though. The school is not forcing them to play the sport. It would be nice if the school did, however it would be wrong to legislate it as a necessity. It would also likely translate to higher costs for other students or perhaps less full athletic scholarships.

Yeah, they chose to do it. However, that doesn't mean that the school shouldn't pay their sport related medical bills.
 
If I get hurt talking photos for photography class the college doesn't pay my bills.

A bit of a silly comparison, don't you think? Your college classes won't knowingly place you in bodily harm.
 
Because they are putting their body on the line. They are risking life long bodily harm and the schools are benefiting greatly. The least they could do is pay for their medical bills. It's that simple.

They are putting their body on the line to play a game under their own accord. The school is in no way responsible to pay for whatever injury results from their choice
 
They are putting their body on the line to play a game under their own accord. The school is in no way responsible to pay for whatever injury results from their choice

Hate to say it, but that doesn't fly. That is why we have workman's comp for jobs. And with their schedule, requirements that they can't work, however, still attend practices, yes it is effectively a job for them.
 
Time for the NFL, remember them, to step in and develop a Triple A, Double A, etc.
Right now, the NFL and NCAA have a cozy relationship using athletes.
The NCAA is a free minor league system for the NFL.
Just as the high schools are a free minor league system for the NCAA.
The NCAA should be paying high schools for doing their dirty work .
Well they don't have to play ball. Why should they get payed for being students? If they want to earn money theycan drop playing games or take out a loan, or get a job.

There is no reason to pay them. They are students. No other student is payed for their labor.
 
Because they are putting their body on the line.
For a hobby. They don't have to play.

They are risking life long bodily harm and the schools are benefiting greatly.
They don't have to play. If it isn't fair they can quit.

The least they could do is pay for their medical bills. It's that simple.
The least they could do is not offer scholarships and make them pay tuition and get student loans.

These hobbyists are risking their health at their own digression to participate in their hobby. The fact that the school can off set some costs and provide better education for it's students is not wing in the least.
 
A bit of a silly comparison, don't you think? Your college classes won't knowingly place you in bodily harm.

But the college doesn't place them in that position. THEY put themselves in that position. This argument is diffusing the responsibility from the choice of the athlete and is placing it on the college
 
They aren't employees. And if they were they get education completely free. While others who contribute far more than playing games must pay ludacrisly high tuition. This is going to be an excuse to increase that burden.

Well in many schools those athletes are putting asses in seats and eyeballs on TV ads padding the bottom line. Fact is they do get tuition which is a kind of in kind pay, but the basic quid pro quo is still a relationship akin to employer/employee.

Nevertheless, really who cares? Employee or not, they have an independent right to associate with each other.
 
They are putting their body on the line to play a game under their own accord. The school is in no way responsible to pay for whatever injury results from their choice

They are playing the game for the school. The school is 100% responsible for any medical bills that arise from the playing of that sport.
 
Has it really gotten to this in this Nation?
Where people believe the NCAA athletes should be dangling on a limb,
one terrible knee injury away from financial disaster .
They are putting their body on the line to play a game under their own accord. The school is in no way responsible to pay for whatever injury results from their choice
 
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