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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    They facilitate a program which, by no mystery, frequently produces injury. His college course, on the other hand, does not.
    Should intramural sports cover injury?
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

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    For a hobby. They don't have to play.

    They don't have to play. If it isn't fair they can quit.

    The least they could do is not offer scholarships and make them pay tuition and get student loans.

    These hobbyists are risking their health at their own digression to participate in their hobby. The fact that the school can off set some costs and provide better education for it's students is not wing in the least.
    For some kids, they do have to play, otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford to attend the school.

    This isn't just a hobby that people do on the side for fun. This is a multi-billion dollar enterprise that is put on the back of these student-athletes. They should, at the least, have any medical bills that come up from playing these sports taken care of.

    And no, having their tuition and board paid for is just not enough. It just isn't.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    And what they don't mention is that football is paying for all the other college sports, which are financial losers, except college basketball.
    A quick look at the eight NCAA basketball games this weekend tells you how much the athletes arer getting ripped off.
    And look at the prices of parking, tickets, and concessions, not to mention TV and radio rights.
    Maybe a lesson on Title IX should be thrown in here to show them what sacrifices these guys make .
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    Well in many schools those athletes are putting asses in seats and eyeballs on TV ads padding the bottom line. Fact is they do get tuition which is a kind of in kind pay, but the basic quid pro quo is still a relationship akin to employer/employee.

    Nevertheless, really who cares? Employee or not, they have an independent right to associate with each other.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Maybe they "should" by some moral argument but that doesn't mean that they should be forced to. That's what ACA is for yes?
    No, the ACA is the government blowing the insurance companies. We need single payer, but that is a whole other topic.

    Back to the point, however, the school should be responsible for the student-athletes injuries, period. It's just the fair thing to do, and I have no issue with the government making a law about it. Especially for publicly funded schools.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Should intramural sports cover injury?
    Have I made that argument, or even the argument you're thinking of?
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    I agree, I'd love to see the two teams at the end of March madness to simply refuse to play. I mean how many of those players aren't going pro? Million each......

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Maybe they "should" by some moral argument but that doesn't mean that they should be forced to. That's what ACA is for yes?
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by newpublius View Post
    Well in many schools those athletes are putting asses in seats and eyeballs on TV ads padding the bottom line.
    And in return for that they get free education and housing.

    They aren't employees they are consumers. They are welcome to try and get into the major leagues on their own without the college.

    Fact is they do get tuition which is a kind of in kind pay, but the basic quid pro quo is still a relationship akin to employer/employee.
    Incorrect, the only reason they get a scholarship is because the school makes money on selling tickets to people that with to spectate them playing around.

    This relationship is in no way what so ever akin to an employee/employer relationship. They don't need game players. There are millions of people that are willing to do it for free, sdo why on earth would you pay some cry babies for doing it?

    Nevertheless, really who cares? Employee or not, they have an independent right to associate with each other.
    They don't have the right to a paycheck.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    If those people are making money off the people working for them, absolutely.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    And in return for that they get free education and housing.

    They aren't employees they are consumers. They are welcome to try and get into the major leagues on their own without the college.


    They don't have the right to a paycheck.
    They have a right to form the Non-Employee Association of College Athletes for all I care and to bargain for better terms that includes free tuition, housing and 'stipends' if that makes you feel better. They don't have a right to a paycheck until they bargain for one, and they can form that association accordingly. They produce value, if they didn't the colleges needn't bargain, can give scholarships to other students.

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