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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The National Labor Relations Board in Chicago has ruled that football players at Northwestern University are employees and can unionize.

    Question is what do you think?
    There are student unions everywhere. The NLRB would want nothing to do with them, nor would it extend many rights to them, because students are not employees.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

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    The school is making millions of dollars off of them. The least they could do is pay for the medical bills associated with the activity that made the school millions of dollars.
    Or they could suffice with just having the burden of housing and the incredibly expensive tuition lifted from them. As for walk ons, they made a voluntary choice to play the sport.

    Should the school also pay for medical services of its tuition paying students whom they also acquire millions from (depending on the size of the school)?
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Medical bills last late into life for some.

    Besides the 60 or more hours at this full-time job, there's been no mention of the time they spend on full-time academics.
    And we see outstanding GPAs with outstanding degrees all the time.
    And they are limited to how many hours they can work at a job.

    Northwestern, which lost in court and is appealing, is whining today they'll drop any of these sports,
    as they monetarily can, but most Universities can't .
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    The school is making millions of dollars off of them. The least they could do is pay for the medical bills associated with the activity that made the school millions of dollars.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    okay then they aren't students, they are pro ball players, if they don't have to study and pass then they aren't really students.
    I think they're part student but not fully and part professional athlete but not fully. With regular students, education comes first. With NCAA student athletes playing ball and winning games comes first. They answer to a coach who is often a millionaire and sometimes a multi-millionaire. The schools fill up stadiums and arena grossing millions per game. The schools have seven figure athletic shoe endorsements. The school gets TV ad revenue and sells team apparel. I just think its only fair for the students to get something and I'm okay with squirrelling all away in a Roth IRA or something similar.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Or they could suffice with just having the burden of housing and the incredibly expensive tuition lifted from them. As for walk ons, they made a voluntary choice to play the sport.

    Should the school also pay for medical services of its tuition paying students whom they also acquire millions from (depending on the size of the school)?
    That's just not enough.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    First thought: Why?

    Second thought: Oh, football, that kinda makes sense.

    Third thought: Why not non-players?

    Sure as hell I could see some merit in an organization that lobbies and organizes on behalf of students.


    I suppose there are various school-specific organizations for that kind of thing.


    Edit: Especially tuition.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That is how I have always seen things

    employees should be able to unionize but the employer should have the right to fire them for that

    if the employees are able to get all competent labor to agree-they win

    if the employer can find competent replacement labor, the unionizers get squashed

    the government shouldn't protect either entity
    I agree. If the company can survive without it's unionized personnel than the union was called on it's bluff.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    did you check the poll box?
    I did, I don't know what happened.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Everyone has a right to organize and advocate for their interests.
    Yep they do
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There are student unions everywhere. The NLRB would want nothing to do with them, nor would it extend many rights to them, because students are not employees.
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