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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    High school football creates a lot of revenue, too.
    it consumes far more than it creates.






    At what point did playing sports stop being a fun thing to do while going to school and start being a job?
    I think games should be just fun and recreation. But then again I am non interested spectating. They seem repetitive and boring. But I like different television shows.

    It's the increasing amount of money that professional game players get. And how much it sticks in peoples' craw that they can't earn that much money. Such as advertisers and sponsors. Professional game players are never payed a dime more than what they are worth. It's not their fault that others aren't skilled at playing their games and thus aren't worth all that money.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The National Labor Relations Board in Chicago has ruled that football players at Northwestern University are employees and can unionize.

    Question is what do you think?
    No they shouldn't and if they are allowed to and strike then their scholarships should be revoked.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    No they shouldn't and if they are allowed to and strike then their scholarships should be revoked.
    I agree completely
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    it consumes far more than it creates.






    I think games should be just fun and recreation. But then again I am non interested spectating. They seem repetitive and boring. But I like different television shows.

    It's the increasing amount of money that professional game players get. And how much it sticks in peoples' craw that they can't earn that much money. Such as advertisers and sponsors. Professional game players are never payed a dime more than what they are worth. It's not their fault that others aren't skilled at playing their games and thus aren't worth all that money.
    Tell that to Texas High School football.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes. They aren't asking for cash, they are asking for their medical bills to be covered and for their schoolwork to be respected. How are those bad things? These schools are earning millions of the backs of these kids who are putting their bodies on the line; the least these schools could do is pay for the medical bills and make sure they have adequate time to study.
    And as for the rest of us college students that have to pay for medical bills and may not have adequate time to study? Should we just put everybody in a foam room? They made a choice to attend COLLEGE and play a sport. The chance of injury is not created by the school but something they voluntarily signed up for
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Tell that to Texas High School football.
    yeah, right. The state where a town spent 60mil on a football stadium for their freaking high school.

    How much more money do we have to give them before it's enough?

    Ps, that stadium is already falling apart.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    If they are employees then they should be taxed on their compensation just like everyone else.
    And fired for poor performance or excessive injury.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    These players are creating economic value. We all acknowledge that, don't we? The question here is how that economic value should be allocated. Right now it is the coaches and the University (the owner) who get it all. The players deserve to get some of that far more so that non-player students who get the benefit of lowered costs as the profits are plowed back into the university.
    They get a lot more than other students. They don't pay a dime for their education.

    The alternative here is for universities to divest themselves of football teams, let some businessmen buy the stadiums and teams, license the use of the university name, transform college ball into a minor league for football, and then hire players directly from high schools and pay them whatever the market will bear.
    Or the ball players can realize they get an education completely free off cost.

    I'm a capitalist, but I'm not in favor of exploitation of labor.
    Playing children's games for amusement isn't labor.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    They get a lot more than other students. They don't pay a dime for their education.
    For the players who don't have a realistic shot at hitting the pros, that might be enough for most of them.

    Or the ball players can realize they get an education completely free off cost.
    Even for players who can't make the pros but who are part of teams which rake into 10s of millions of dollars for their schools, these guys might not be satisfied with getting a free education. If you're undervalued at work, the fact that you're getting a salary doesn't erase the fact that you think that you're worth more and that you're willing to fight or negotiate for more. When your boss tells you "What are you complaining about, I'm already paying you" that's not going to end the matter for you.

    Playing children's games for amusement isn't labor.
    Tell that to the businessmen who coach the teams, the one's who televise the games, the recruiters for the pros, the pro team owners. They're all working and getting paid, so why shouldn't the players.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The National Labor Relations Board in Chicago has ruled that football players at Northwestern University are employees and can unionize.

    Question is what do you think?
    I bet this ruling doesn't survive federal court review



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