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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

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    For some kids, they do have to play, otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford to attend the school.
    They don't have to go to school.

    This isn't just a hobby that people do on the side for fun.
    Yes it is.

    This is a multi-billion dollar enterprise that is put on the back of these student-athletes.
    Yep many hobbies are billion dollar enterprises.

    The game players get plenty in return. First they get to enjoy their hobby, they get free tuition for the ability to enjoy their hobby. They get the opportunity to get a professional position playing games for millions of dollars. That opportunity alone should be worth it.

    They should, at the least, have any medical bills that come up from playing these sports taken care of.
    I disagree. Should implys an opinion, I think they should take care of their problems on their own like everybody else. They aren't special.

    And no, having their tuition and board paid for is just not enough. It just isn't.
    That is just an opinion. I think the opportunity to be selected for the pros alone is way more than enough. Tuition and housing is too much. But it is the schools money and they can spend it as they wish.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    "The game players get plenty in return. First they get to enjoy their hobby, they get free tuition for the ability to enjoy their hobby. They get the opportunity to get a professional position playing games for millions of dollars. That opportunity alone should be worth it."

    And they have every right to try to get more.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by newpublius View Post
    They have a right to form the Non-Employee Association of College Athletes for all I care and to bargain for better terms that includes free tuition, housing and 'stipends' if that makes you feel better.
    I never said they didn't have that right. They also have the right to not play football. And the college. has the right to give them the finger and find people who will do it just for the opportunity and not cater to foot stomping cry babies.

    They don't have a right to a paycheck until they bargain for one, and they can form that association accordingly.
    Nobody has a right to a paycheck. This isn't a communist country. You only have the opportunity to earn a paycheck.

    They produce value, if they didn't the colleges needn't bargain, can give scholarships to other students.
    They still aren't employees. And they still don't have the right to apaycheck.. no amount of bargaining will change that.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by newpublius View Post

    And they have every right to try to get more.
    I never said they didn't.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The National Labor Relations Board in Chicago has ruled that football players at Northwestern University are employees and can unionize.

    Question is what do you think?
    Yes college athletes should be able to unionize.They are making their schools millions,so they should get a cut.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by newpublius View Post
    I agree, I'd love to see the two teams at the end of March madness to simply refuse to play. I mean how many of those players aren't going pro? Million each......
    I am not sure what match madness is.

    Paying students so that students can have the best opportunities, is madness in all twelve months.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes college athletes should be able to unionize.They are making their schools millions,so they should get a cut.
    I agree they should be allowed to unionize, and they get acut, a rather large one.
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The National Labor Relations Board in Chicago has ruled that football players at Northwestern University are employees and can unionize.

    Question is what do you think?
    I think it's ridiculous. If and when they move into pro-football and actually make money, then they can join the NFL union. Until then, they are college students, supposedly there to get an education. Of course, college football has become an entity unto itself, possessing all the power and corruption that goes with it. Personally, I think college football should be relegated back to being an extra-curricular activity that must be earned based on grades and classwork, and not an unofficial draft pool for the NFL.

    Unionize. Pfffft. Ludicrous.

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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I think it's ridiculous. If and when they move into pro-football and actually make money, then they can join the NFL union. Until then, they are college students, supposedly there to get an education. Of course, college football has become an entity unto itself, possessing all the power and corruption that goes with it. Personally, I think college football should be relegated back to being an extra-curricular activity that must be earned based on grades and classwork, and not an unofficial draft pool for the NFL.

    Unionize. Pfffft. Ludicrous.
    I don't care if they unionize, but people that have everything want more?
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    Re: Should college students be able to unionize?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    I don't care if they unionize, but people that have everything want more?
    Colleges have turned football into a cash-cow, and now the players want their cut? You miss my point. This is college. The point of college is not playing football. It's shoving enough knowledge into empty little brains so they can go out into the world with enough education to survive, and maybe even make the world a little better.

    I'd be perfectly happy if all revenue-generating football was permanently banned from all college campuses, relegated to just another extra-curricular sport like tennis or rugby. College football is corrupt to the core, college football players go through four years of college and some come out functionally illiterate because nobody cares about the football player himself beyond what kind of money he can earn for the damned college. It should be illegal for colleges to pimp their football players for cash, and stealing from them the education that they will need when, you know, their knees blow out.

    No college sports should make money for the college, period. Kids need to be educated, not prostituted out of sheer corruption and greed.

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