View Poll Results: which is worse?

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  • being killed in cold blood while doing nothing wrong

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  • killing an innocent person in cold blood

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    which is worse?

    This thread was inspired by http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...arenthood.html. I was surprised that I was the only person voting for option 2.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This thread was inspired by http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...arenthood.html. I was surprised that I was the only person voting for option 2.

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    And that has what to do with your poll? And the choices available?

    As to morality, well, there is nowhere I know of that says being killed is immoral, but sometimes killing others is immoral. But hey, from the survival instinct part of me, better to be the killer than the killed.
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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This thread was inspired by http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...arenthood.html. I was surprised that I was the only person voting for option 2.

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    I agree with you. Living with that would be hell for you, assuming that you eventually reach the point of conscience, and the human tendency is to do so, as we age, from what I've seen. If you were killed in cold blood, you would have no awareness of it, so that's really a moot point.
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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This thread was inspired by http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...arenthood.html. I was surprised that I was the only person voting for option 2.

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    ?? So you think it's worse to kill in cold blood than it is to BE killed? Worse for who??

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    ?? So you think it's worse to kill in cold blood than it is to BE killed? Worse for who??
    A good question. There are situations I would kill, and situations I would be killed in, I suppose.

    Morally speaking, in terms of the situation being "one person randomly walks up to the other on the street and shoots them dead", then A is the correct answer.

    However, in terms of "some random hollywood series of events has forced me and another individual into the Pit and only one of us get's to walk out", well, I have children - those are responsibilities I cannot ignore. In that case, I'm sorry dude, but my loyalty to my kids outweighs my desire not to have psych issues.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Being killed, mostly because it means you're likely an imbecile who didn't bother to pay attention to where you were and who was around you.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    ?? So you think it's worse to kill in cold blood than it is to BE killed? Worse for who??
    from an ethical/moral standpoint, it is worse to kill in cold blood than to be killed. you have made a conscious decision to murder someone for no legitimate reason.

    from a personal human standpoint, it is better to live than to die.


    which I would choose, depends on the circumstances. killing someone in cold blood.... would I be caught? If I had to choose between being murdered and spending the rest of my life in prison getting raped in the showers, I think I would probably choose to be murdered. If I could do it and get away with it, I'd probably choose to be a cold blooded killer.
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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    ?? So you think it's worse to kill in cold blood than it is to BE killed? Worse for who??
    You've got it backwards.
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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A good question. There are situations I would kill, and situations I would be killed in, I suppose.

    Morally speaking, in terms of the situation being "one person randomly walks up to the other on the street and shoots them dead", then A is the correct answer.

    However, in terms of "some random hollywood series of events has forced me and another individual into the Pit and only one of us get's to walk out", well, I have children - those are responsibilities I cannot ignore. In that case, I'm sorry dude, but my loyalty to my kids outweighs my desire not to have psych issues.
    How would being thrown into the Thunderdome change the dynamic of whether you have children to take care of?

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This thread was inspired by http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...arenthood.html. I was surprised that I was the only person voting for option 2.

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    Being killed in cold blood while doing nothing wrong.Because in that situation you are dead while with the other you are alive.
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