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  • being killed in cold blood while doing nothing wrong

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  • killing an innocent person in cold blood

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Thread: which is worse?

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Being killed, mostly because it means you're likely an imbecile who didn't bother to pay attention to where you were and who was around you.

    So all the murder victims of lifers and death row inmates in prison are just imbeciles or dumb asses?
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    Re: which is worse?

    I probably couldnt live with myself if i killed an innocent person, so i voted that option.


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    Re: which is worse?

    Being killed in cold blood I suppose. There's at least a possibility that I could find a way to come to terms with killing another person and live with myself. If I'm dead, I'm dead and there's just nothing.
    If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.

    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Depends whether the other person is a man or a woman or child.

    Its a bad question because it could be both are "innocent" and I have to decide which of us lives. It seems everything is declaring the answer is they certainly would be willing to die in the place of anyone and everyone else. I would not.

    A plane is headed towards the ground. 1 parachute. I grab it, the other person dies. I don't, I die.

    It is so NICE to be on a forum of people certain they would say, "Oh, you take the parachute. I couldn't live with myself if YOU die!" You can't live with yourself if you die either, can you?

    Hopefully, you'd still have time to write a note to you children and family explaining how they don't mean jack **** to you so at least they know they meant exactly nothing to you, even less than a total stranger - and that your life with them is so worthless its not worth living anyway.

    This one is a no brainer to me. 2 men. I'm one of them. Only one of us can live. I pick me.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Depends whether the other person is a man or a woman or child.

    Its a bad question because it could be both are "innocent" and I have to decide which of us lives. It seems everything is declaring the answer is they certainly would be willing to die in the place of anyone and everyone else. I would not.

    A plane is headed towards the ground. 1 parachute. I grab it, the other person dies. I don't, I die.

    It is so NICE to be on a forum of people certain they would say, "Oh, you take the parachute. I couldn't live with myself if YOU die!" You can't live with yourself if you die either, can you?

    Hopefully, you'd still have time to write a note to you children and family explaining how they don't mean jack **** to you so at least they know they meant exactly nothing to you, even less than a total stranger - and that your life with them is so worthless its not worth living anyway.

    This one is a no brainer to me. 2 men. I'm one of them. Only one of us can live. I pick me.
    You've strayed very far from the OP.
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    Re: which is worse?

    I faced the question of the other guy or me in violent situations more times than anyone would believe in my youth and as an adult. I did not even see there was any decision to ponder about that, never crossed my mind.

    I have a right to protect my existence in this lifetime. I have a right to act to prevent or minimize being hurt regardless of the innocence of the other person. I only would only yield that view now to my children and wife who are of a higher status than I.

    I suppose at some point I'd yield my life to a large enough number of other innocent people unless all were men (if such as a truly "innocent" person even exists), but not the life of one of my children or wife.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    You've strayed very far from the OP.
    I believe I answered it exactly. The choice is between being killed or killing. I picked survival.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Not making your highest priority instilling a parent's own morality does not mean that isn't the child being moral a goal of the parents.

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    Re: which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I faced the question of the other guy or me in violent situations more times than anyone would believe in my youth and as an adult. I did not even see there was any decision to ponder about that, never crossed my mind.

    I have a right to protect my existence in this lifetime. I have a right to act to prevent or minimize being hurt regardless of the innocence of the other person. I only would only yield that view now to my children and wife who are of a higher status than I.

    I suppose at some point I'd yield my life to a large enough number of other innocent people unless all were men (if such as a truly "innocent" person even exists), but not the life of one of my children or wife.
    That isn't what this thread is about.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: which is worse?

    I chose the first because well, if I had a choice between the two, that seems better. I really don't give a **** if most people live, me on the other hand, I got **** to do.
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