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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    I think the Dems primary will be more interesting. Who will emerge with the most lies that will allow the party to resume control of the lemming vote? For example, "I will have the most transparent administration in History." And, "The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime." Well, you get the picture.

    How many special interest groups will swallow hook, line, and sinker the promises of the best Dem orator?

    War on women crowd?
    Gays?
    Unions?
    Abortion rights activists?
    Welfare recipients?
    Disability crowd?
    Open border proponents?
    Entitlement and nanny state crowd?
    Big government lovers?
    Wall Street?

    And there is those of course who are paying more now for insurance premiums and deductibles like, well, everybody who pays for health insurance.

    The Dem hawks who support Obama wars?
    I'm guessing they will digress to becoming peace loving libs again and lash out at Republicans for having a war like mentality.
    (This is an interesting democratic cycle based on who controls the executive and legislative branches of government.)

    And on the other side of the docket, which candidates will distance themselves from Obamacare, especially those who voted for it.

    This is going to be one interesting fall.
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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

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    Gender? So the feminine shouldn't work?...

    I take great pleasure that free people doing well and expressing love for each other makes a dinosaur like you nauseated.

    Death to all homosexuals is it? You've gone from "Aww my cute racist old grandma, she's from another time..." to a downright domestic threat to the lives of innocent citizens. I am so glad people like you are not long for this world; This world belongs to the living.
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    3. Death to all Immoralists and their supporters. The world properly belongs to those who can live a Proper life whether they want to or not.

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Posts 91 and 92....are these examples of extremism ? or are they just rants from a sick mind ? or a combo of the two ?

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Posts 91 and 92....are these examples of extremism ? or are they just rants from a sick mind ? or a combo of the two ?
    In the case of Post #92, BOTH.

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Whereas the striking problem with your view of things is that many who speak of Freedom and Liberty are simply seeking the means to avoid the most basic tenants of Society, Social Order and Morality. Life has never been and hopefully never will be about what we WANT to do. It is instead, and always has been about what we SHOULD do.
    Since when has man ever done what he SHOULD do ?
    Or, name ONE perfect man....

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Since when has man ever done what he SHOULD do? Or, name ONE perfect man....
    Where have I ever suggested there has ever been a Perfect Man (or woman). To my knowledge there never has been one. It's a goal to strive for. A brass ring to reach for. The problem is that our society currently works to discourage people from even trying. Instead our society says "Don't worry about it. It doesn't matter. Do whatever you want." Only after death do most see the folly of their ways.

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Where have I ever suggested there has ever been a Perfect Man (or woman). To my knowledge there never has been one. It's a goal to strive for. A brass ring to reach for. The problem is that our society currently works to discourage people from even trying. Instead our society says "Don't worry about it. It doesn't matter. Do whatever you want." Only after death do most see the folly of their ways.
    Tigger, in a previous post you said,

    "Death to all Immoralists and their supporters. The world properly belongs to those who can live a Proper life whether they want to or not."

    Who is the decider on the "specific morals" people must die for if they don't comply? And who decides on "the things that are proper", which I'm also guessing would create serious outcomes for those who don't complying?

    Then you state:

    "Only after death do most see the folly of their ways."
    While I don't dare ask you for proof of that. But, are you in any way suggesting that you have some kind of insider information that people are actually capable of seeing the folly of there ways "after death"?

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Who is the decider on the "specific morals" people must die for if they don't comply? And who decides on "the things that are proper", which I'm also guessing would create serious outcomes for those who don't complying?
    Those morals and values were determined in the long past, at the time that human beings were starting to form civilizations. They have been in place for eons, going back to the most basic of concepts necessary for humankind to survive in this world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    While I don't dare ask you for proof of that. But, are you in any way suggesting that you have some kind of insider information that people are actually capable of seeing the folly of there ways "after death"?
    No more "insider information" than what the believers of any other Spiritual or Religious pathway claim to have, RM.... Faith, Belief, and an Inner Resolve that what we have found through whichever path we take, is the Right Way to do things. Very few Religious or Spiritual paths that I've found don't claim there is some form of Judgement at the end of life.

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Where have I ever suggested there has ever been a Perfect Man (or woman). To my knowledge there never has been one. It's a goal to strive for. A brass ring to reach for. The problem is that our society currently works to discourage people from even trying. Instead our society says "Don't worry about it. It doesn't matter. Do whatever you want." Only after death do most see the folly of their ways.
    You seem to be a libertarian,Tigger....their philosophy only works for "perfect" man..
    Our society, all societies hold that man should strive to be "perfect"...and after seeing that this is impossible, they relax and say "do not worry" , but "perfection is ever the underlaying current....My take anyway
    From having read your many words, Tigger, I have the impression that you believe that man should try to be perfect....and that libertarians/conservatives are....

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    Re: Which Presidential primary race do you think will be the most interesting in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You seem to be a libertarian,Tigger....their philosophy only works for "perfect" man..
    Our society, all societies hold that man should strive to be "perfect"...and after seeing that this is impossible, they relax and say "do not worry" , but "perfection is ever the underlaying current....My take anyway
    From having read your many words, Tigger, I have the impression that you believe that man should try to be perfect....and that libertarians/conservatives are....
    Not at all, earthworm. In my mind Libertarianism is the equivalant of sitting on the fence, trying to see which side the grass is greener on with each issue. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Like a Chinese restaurant menu.... One from this column (Right), one from that column (Centrist), ooh and two from the last column (Left). That's simply not having a spine or a set of morals to begin with so far as I'm concerned.

    American Society no longer holds that there is a model of "Perfection" for humankind. Instead we accept the whole gambit of whatever people WANT to do rather than even suggesting, nevermind enforcing the ideal that there is a definition of what one SHOULD do. What you're suggesting is akin to a parent telling a child not to steal a candybar and when the child does steal it simply looking at them and going "Oops. Now give me half of that."

    I believe that the SOLE PURPOSE of humankind being on this plane of existance is for us to attempt to meet that goal of Perfection, even knowing that we will fall short of it. My belief on what that Perfect mold is, does not line up with any current political or social theory. In fact it goes back to a time before the written word even existed and is further to the Right than pretty much any ideology we've seen in this world in the least several centuries.

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