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  • To raise the child to be happy, healthy, and successful in whatever path they choose

    25 67.57%
  • To help them before a moral citizen

    1 2.70%
  • To value God (or deity of your choice) over everything else

    2 5.41%
  • To be a free spirit

    2 5.41%
  • To agree with your political and cultural values

    0 0%
  • To get them out of the house ASAP

    0 0%
  • Other

    6 16.22%
  • the "out" answer (rootabega)

    1 2.70%
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Thread: The purpose of parenthood

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Regardless of what you THINK is going to happen, what he/she learns and observes from your example is what's gonna stick.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You don't think "all authentic" is pedantic?

    So those of us who don't believe in god, his god specifically I'm sure, can't ever experience "authentic" happiness, freedom, and we have no morals and our political ideologies are "wrong"????


    It's the "all authentic" part. Arrogant. Pedantic.

    pedant: a person who adheres rigidly to book knowledge without regard to common sense
    The supreme form of happiness is in experiencing the beatific vision. To live in a manner which is not directed to that end cannot result in a life of true spiritual joy, although it can produce temporary emotional feelings of happiness.

    Authentic freedom is freedom from sin. While no one can be completely free from sin in this world, all freedom from it which does exist is by God's grace.

    Natural moral virtues exist among unbelievers, however even these have their origin in God, although this is not recognized by the individuals in question.

    Any political ideology supporting secularism or the establishment of a false religion is extremely wrong-headed. While it is possible for an unbeliever to support the establishment of the true religion, such would only be because he recognized, by the grace of God, that it was better for society on a natural level.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The supreme form of happiness is in experiencing the beatific vision. To live in a manner which is not directed to that end cannot result in a life of true spiritual joy, although it can produce temporary emotional feelings of happiness.

    Authentic freedom is freedom from sin. While no one can be completely free from sin in this world, all freedom from it which does exist is by God's grace.

    Natural moral virtues exist among unbelievers, however even these have their origin in God, although this is not recognized by the individuals in question.

    Any political ideology supporting secularism or the establishment of a false religion is extremely wrong-headed. While it is possible for an unbeliever to support the establishment of the true religion, such would only be because he recognized, by the grace of God, that it was better for society on a natural level.
    All of the above is pure mumbo-jumbo.

    How'd you feel about a similar post made by a muslim-extremist over what they think "authentic" happiness is based on the crap they've learned and been fed????

    Parenthood shouldn't be about teaching that kind of morbid nonsense.
    If your child finds that sort of thing comforting on their own when they get older then fine, but parenthood isn't about brainwashing.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    The answer is first and foremost about survival.... at least for anyone willing to observe nature. Procreation for the continuation of the species is a natural trait that is imprinted into the minds of all creatures. Everything after that is secondary.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Uh, to create new people to replace the ones that die so we don't run out of people.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    All of the above is pure mumbo-jumbo.

    How'd you feel about a similar post made by a muslim-extremist over what they think "authentic" happiness is based on the crap they've learned and been fed????

    Parenthood shouldn't be about teaching that kind of morbid nonsense.
    If your child finds that sort of thing comforting on their own when they get older then fine, but parenthood isn't about brainwashing.
    Summary dismissals are not logically valid.

    I would respond with rational arguments as to why they were wrong. If I lacked the knowledge to do so I would not respond to it and would allow someone with the requisite knowledge to refute it.

    You're the only one talking about brainwashing.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    This should have been a multiple choice poll, I would have chosen #1 and #2. Our job as parents are to raise our children to be productive, useful and self-sufficient members of society.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    The answer is first and foremost about survival.... at least for anyone willing to observe nature. Procreation for the continuation of the species is a natural trait that is imprinted into the minds of all creatures. Everything after that is secondary.
    That's crap when it comes to society and actually creating and continuing a nation or culture that is worth living in.


    Because any and all organisms can reproduce...takes little or nothing at all. There is ZERO ability or skill or often even choice involved. ANYTHING can reproduce, pretty much. That is not a 'quality' to lift up as a criteria for a higher ground, it is innate.


    So procreation is a given...anything can procreate. Everything after that....religion, culture, science, art, compassion, infrastructure, laws....is primary.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
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    better to die than be immoral
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Since gender roles has been a big topic here lately. I am curious how DP feels about this topic.

    I am aware that for the most honest answer, this would be a multiple answer poll, but I am more curious about top priorities.

    Edit: Also the second option has a typo (before should be become) (if a mod sees that, would they be willing to fix it?)
    Poll is a fail. You try to pigeon hole parenthood. Just damn!
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