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  • To raise the child to be happy, healthy, and successful in whatever path they choose

    25 67.57%
  • To help them before a moral citizen

    1 2.70%
  • To value God (or deity of your choice) over everything else

    2 5.41%
  • To be a free spirit

    2 5.41%
  • To agree with your political and cultural values

    0 0%
  • To get them out of the house ASAP

    0 0%
  • Other

    6 16.22%
  • the "out" answer (rootabega)

    1 2.70%
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    To nurture, guide and instill with the aim of seeing children maximize their life's highest potential for success and happiness. This involves many things that include, to the greatest extent possible trying to offer:

    - A life filled with culturally enriching experiences.
    - The best possible education that I think is maximized with access to technology in the home, support for extra-curricular involvement, working to get them in the best schools and making learning entertaining.
    - Spiritual guidance, both taught and caught through example.
    - Installation of values
    - Self-esteem and confidence building.
    - Stable home life.
    - Support for proper nutrition and health
    - Monitoring influences and supporting the positive while blocking the negative.
    - etc.

    I also think society shows and the Bible also supports the idea that intact 2 parent homes provide the best home environments, all things being equal. The most obvious reason is raising kids properly with the aim of seeing the best possible life outcomes is work. In 2014 most people work fulltime jobs outside of the home in order to afford the necessities of life. It takes 2 parents just to have the manpower (or womanpower ) to effectively do all the work of parenting.

    I also think there are some innate abilities only a mother can contribute in the child rearing experience and certain innate abilities only a father can contribute. For example recent research has shown girls respect the advise the get from her mother. This is especially true when encouraging adolescent girl to delay becoming sexuality active and overall advice in relationships, provided she has a close relationship with her mother that is not likely to exist if she grows up in another home. Boys learn to respect and defend women based on how he witnesses his father relate to his mother and sisters. Girls who don't have a healthy relationship with her father often seek the affirmation and affection of males often in inappropriate ways often with numerous partners in revolving door fashion and/or are exploited by older men. Some boys are wired to only see legitimate leadership as coming from a male. If there is no father present, those males will never truly respect the leadership of their mother in the home and extension her discipline and might even gravitate to embracing the leadership of gang leaders.

    Of course, there are exceptions. There are kids who come from horrible backgrounds are turned of successful. There are kids who have every advantage in life and have had horrible life outcomes. Just talking about the most likely outcomes.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    And I hope you get better at coming up with somewhat original insults.
    I wasn't really trying to be insulting, but when you say things like the below, that come off as highly arrogant and pedantic, I'm not sure what you'd expect otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    since all authentic happiness, morality, freedom, and right-minded politics is of God.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I wasn't really trying to be insulting, but when you say things like the below, that come off as highly arrogant and pedantic, I'm not sure what you'd expect otherwise.
    How is it "arrogant and pedantic"?

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I wasn't really trying to be insulting, but when you say things like the below, that come off as highly arrogant and pedantic, .
    I have to disagree as I didn't see his statement as pedantic at all. In fact the statement would indicate he wasn't trying to flaunt any knowledge or intelligence at all since such a statement was so completely bereft of either.

    I would agree with the word "chauvenistic", however.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    I would never raise my child for the purpose of them agreeing with me politically or spiritually. I want my child to be successful but at the same time walk his own path.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I have to disagree as I didn't see his statement as pedantic at all. In fact the statement would indicate he wasn't trying to flaunt any knowledge or intelligence at all since such a statement was so completely bereft of either.

    I would agree with the word "chauvenistic", however.
    You don't think "all authentic" is pedantic?

    So those of us who don't believe in god, his god specifically I'm sure, can't ever experience "authentic" happiness, freedom, and we have no morals and our political ideologies are "wrong"????


    It's the "all authentic" part. Arrogant. Pedantic.

    pedant: a person who adheres rigidly to book knowledge without regard to common sense

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Answered #1 but also believe parents are responsible for raising a kid that, if not a contributor to society, at least does it no harm. Parents should be held accountable for any of that until the kid is at least 18....and while I dont understand why children are allowed on parent's insurance plans until 26 now....then why not until then?

    Cuz alot of parents really suck and the rest of us have to pay for their incompetancy, laziness, self-centeredness, addictions, whatever.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    The poll should have been multiple choice.

    If it had been, I would have selected A, B, and C (though, to be honest, I'm not sure about the 'above all else' aspect of that last option).

    It is a parent's job to provide society, and the human race in general, with the next generation. In doing so, they provide its hope for the future.

    As such, those children need to be raised well enough to not only be "happy," but productive and moral individuals who contribute something of value to our civilization as a whole.
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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    option #2

    Being a good person is more important than being healthy and happy.

    It's also important to understand the difference between options 2 and 5.
    Miserable sick people rarely do good.

    Happy people are people that wish to see others happy.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: The purpose of parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You don't think "all authentic" is pedantic?

    So those of us who don't believe in god, his god specifically I'm sure, can't ever experience "authentic" happiness, freedom, and we have no morals and our political ideologies are "wrong"????


    It's the "all authentic" part. Arrogant. Pedantic.

    pedant: a person who adheres rigidly to book knowledge without regard to common sense
    Perhaps you need to read what I said a second time, or perhaps even a third if you actually think I am defending him.
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