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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yanukovych claims to still be President of Ukraine, he just chooses not to live there anymore. If President Obama decided to flee the US for whatever reason and take up residence in Canada, would the US determine that Joe Biden was then the President of the United States? There is an interim government in the Ukraine awaiting elections in May to elect a new government to replace the absent President. He could come back and run again, or reclaim his elected office, if he wanted. Of course, as with any government leader who authorized the illegal slaughter of his own citizens, he may be subject to arrest, prosecution, and execution.
    It's pretty much acknowledged that the "opposition",, not Yanukovych, was behind the snipers. As a matter of fact, the new head of Security Pruebly (sp) was in charge of the building that the snipers fired from. He has chosen not to investigate. Gee, I wonder why.

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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    It was a coup. And this is not the first time the U.S. has backed a coup and supported the new, illegitimate government. The US is scolding Russia for alleged interference in the affairs in Crimea – and, at the same time, supports the Ukrainian nationalists who usurped power in Kiev, supports them with much more than friendly words and gestures.

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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?


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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Konig View Post
    It was a coup. And this is not the first time the U.S. has backed a coup and supported the new, illegitimate government. The US is scolding Russia for alleged interference in the affairs in Crimea – and, at the same time, supports the Ukrainian nationalists who usurped power in Kiev, supports them with much more than friendly words and gestures.
    Proof? Any evidence? Or are you just spouting typical anti-American Bull****? That's a rhetorical question, by the way. The answer is already known. It's bull****.
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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    The whole Crimean crisis has its roots in the ouster of former Ukrainian President Yanukovych.
    No, it doesn't. It started long before that.


    The Ukrainian parliament, with the support of Yanukovych's old Party of Regions, voted to impeach Yanukovych. They had a majority, but not the strict percentage (75%) required by the Ukrainian constitution to impeach their president. Nevertheless, they made motions to replace Yanukovych, motions which were accelerated by his fleeing the country into Russia.

    Was this removal of an elected official an illegitimate coup, or was it a revolution that was acceptable given the circumstances?
    It was a coup d'état and yes, it was illegal. But then, so was the election of Yanukovych.



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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Thank God it wasn't somewhere where the US had immediate interests then, rather than imperialist ones! How can anyone live with such total hypocricy?
    What are the U.S. immediate interests in Ukraine? Where are the American troops and aircraft necessary to further the causes of imperialism? As usual, more anti-American crap without a shred of proof.

    PS - hatred of the U.S. does not constitute proof anywhere.
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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What are the U.S. immediate interests in Ukraine? Where are the American troops and aircraft necessary to further the causes of imperialism? As usual, more anti-American crap without a shred of proof.

    PS - hatred of the U.S. does not constitute proof anywhere.
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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's called a "government in exile." That's usually what happens after a revolution, the deposed head for "friendly territory" and proclaim that they are still legitimate.

    Yeah, I'm sure he could just show up in Kiev and say "Hey I'm back. We're cool, right?"
    But the question is, why did he flee? If he feels he's legitimate and he's done nothing wrong, he'd stay. Didn't the former President of the Ukraine, I forget her name, get imprisoned by Yanukovych when he took power? She felt she was legitimate and she stayed - got put in prison - and then was released by Yanukovych during his attempt to retain power during the "revolution". She's the one who stood on principle for her country. Yanukovych high-tailed it out of town like any good communist dictator would.
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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Thank God it wasn't somewhere where the US had immediate interests then, rather than imperialist ones! How can anyone live with such total hypocricy?
    I'm unclear - who are you claiming is a hypocrite, and why?
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    Re: Was the overthrow of Yanukovych a coup?

    No, because
    a) he lost all legitimacy when he ordered his thugs to open fire on the protesters
    b) the interim govt already established elections and did not enforce it's ruling with military power.

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