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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Lady P. I think when we listen to them talk in front of the camera it says it all. Rarely do they sound like servants unless it is a newly elected member.

    Its like any of them can call up the Press and say they want airtime. Pelosi, McCain, Reid, and Ryan. Even to just criticize the other party. I even think the Press enables them to think they are Privileged and in doing so. Allows the Press and Media to take on the same mantle. Privileged.
    Even Republicans have that sort of power? Here I thought that the media was in bed with the Democrats. At least, I keep hearing about how they are.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Would you have the President also stay in to barracks? Or is this your call for a totally Imperial President in relation to Congress?
    I am fine with the president living in the whitehouse.That is who it was built for.He has a different position than congressmen and senators.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I don't think the President travels often (if ever) by commercial flights due to security concerns and it would be different if Congress members were traveling via some government means that was more private, like Air Force One and their reason was security concerns. But if they are traveling like the rest of us, on commercial flights then there is no valid security concern they can make in why they should be in first class vice coach since nothing about first class makes a passenger on an airliner safer.
    It is safer as a matter of privacy and getting sick.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    I don't want the masses/mob to control government nor want peasants running it. The result is socialism and such as the French Revolution that goes on a killing/tyranny spree. I want government to be from among our very best and brightest and usually that isn't someone flipping burgers at McDonalds or driving a delivery truck.

    I also think our elected representatives should be treated as holding high positions of honor, nor want poor Congress members at the back of the aircraft and rich ones up front, just I don't want rich people up front and our elected representatives shoved to the back.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Even Republicans have that sort of power? Here I thought that the media was in bed with the Democrats. At least, I keep hearing about how they are.

    Heya DH......yep even Repubs. But that still doesn't change that the MS media far more liberal than whats led on. The kicker is the all those heartfelt warming stories that don't have to do with anything. That come out of far left field.

    Or when they direct us to look at the other privilege group that comes out of Hollywood and TV Land.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya DH......yep even Repubs. But that still doesn't change that the MS media far more liberal than whats led on. The kicker is the all those heartfelt warming stories that don't have to do with anything. That come out of far left field.

    Or when they direct us to look at the other privilege group that comes out of Hollywood and TV Land.
    You mean like the baby gorilla story that they played over and over on TV? Maybe that was just local, but you probably know what I mean, cutesy stuff that really has no news value.

    The MSM may lean "liberal", but their real motivation is to get viewership so they can sell advertising space. That's their bread and butter.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    I've thought about this today, and to be honest, I really don't have an issue with it. The aspect that a military person cannot fly first class even if they pay for the upgrade out of their own pocket doesn't sit well with me, but not enough to change my mind. I'd simply fix the military thing and leave the rest alone.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think they should pay any difference between first class prices and economy out of their own pockets. The only airfare paid should be back and forth to their home districts.
    I also think senior members of Congress like the Speaker, Minority and Majority leaders, etc. should travel on military aircraft or a private charter aircraft fleet operated by the Federal Government for senior government officials.

    BTW: for organizations that travel a lot, its often cost equivalent to operate private aircraft rather than fly commercial airlines...at least according to a private charter flight service manager/pilot I know. Then you get the convenience to travel on you own schedule and not the airlines and avoid the inconvenience if connecting flights if travelling to and from cities and towns that aren't major hubs. My only concern is I think its important for policy makers to live under the same life conditions are the public so they are equally affected by the policies on the rest of us and understand first hand the lives their constituents have to live. For this reason I'd want to limit this service to senior government officials.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class?

    Last year, Bloomberg Businessweek ran a feature titled, The Pampered World of Congressional Air Travel. The story detailed the cushy and expensive travel bookings Congressman and Senators make on a regular basis with frequent trips back and forth to their home states and districts. The cost to taxpayers is enormous, but could be much less if they'd simply swallow their pride and sit in coach with the rest of us.



    "There is no more pampered class of air traveler than members of Congress.

    At Washington’s Reagan National Airport, they have their own special parking spaces—right up close to the terminal—that they don’t even have to pay for. As Bloomberg Television’s Hans Nichols reports, this perk costs the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority $738,760 in foregone revenue.

    To members of our fly-in-Tuesday-fly-home-Thursday Congress, these perks are a big deal. Most fly a lot, and many fly first class. They don’t just jet home to their districts. Sometimes, they’re jetting around the world at taxpayer expense ($23,646, to be specific), as Democratic Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas did in February. "

    "As with all federal spending, Member's Representational Allowance funds are taxpayer dollars. As such, the use of these funds must be exercised with the utmost efficiency and transparency. A loophole currently exists that allows members of Congress to fly first-class at the expense of the taxpayer. Members of Congress are servants of the people and should not be considered a privileged class. Luxury airfare accommodations utilizing taxpayer monies would seem inappropriate in any fiscal climate but at a time of soaring deficits and with a federal debt in excess of $17 trillion such expenditures are especially wasteful," the request states. "If federal restrictions prohibit members of our military from traveling first-class, this same standard should also apply to Members of Congress."

    "It's absolutely wasteful and completely unacceptable that Members of Congress - servants of the people - are currently allowed to fly first class using hard-earned taxpayer money.....snip~

    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class? - Katie Pavlich


    There you have it.....the loophole our servants always use. That they shouldn't be considered a privileged class. Yet that's exactly what they have become and use, manipulate, connive, and get around. Its high time it stops. They are no better than you or I. Nor any others. Time for our privileged servants to go back to just being servants. Perhaps if we actually started treating them like servants. They would get the message. What say ye?
    If they pay the extra, sure.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class?

    Last year, Bloomberg Businessweek ran a feature titled, The Pampered World of Congressional Air Travel. The story detailed the cushy and expensive travel bookings Congressman and Senators make on a regular basis with frequent trips back and forth to their home states and districts. The cost to taxpayers is enormous, but could be much less if they'd simply swallow their pride and sit in coach with the rest of us.



    "There is no more pampered class of air traveler than members of Congress.

    At Washington’s Reagan National Airport, they have their own special parking spaces—right up close to the terminal—that they don’t even have to pay for. As Bloomberg Television’s Hans Nichols reports, this perk costs the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority $738,760 in foregone revenue.

    To members of our fly-in-Tuesday-fly-home-Thursday Congress, these perks are a big deal. Most fly a lot, and many fly first class. They don’t just jet home to their districts. Sometimes, they’re jetting around the world at taxpayer expense ($23,646, to be specific), as Democratic Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas did in February. "

    "As with all federal spending, Member's Representational Allowance funds are taxpayer dollars. As such, the use of these funds must be exercised with the utmost efficiency and transparency. A loophole currently exists that allows members of Congress to fly first-class at the expense of the taxpayer. Members of Congress are servants of the people and should not be considered a privileged class. Luxury airfare accommodations utilizing taxpayer monies would seem inappropriate in any fiscal climate but at a time of soaring deficits and with a federal debt in excess of $17 trillion such expenditures are especially wasteful," the request states. "If federal restrictions prohibit members of our military from traveling first-class, this same standard should also apply to Members of Congress."

    "It's absolutely wasteful and completely unacceptable that Members of Congress - servants of the people - are currently allowed to fly first class using hard-earned taxpayer money.....snip~

    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class? - Katie Pavlich


    There you have it.....the loophole our servants always use. That they shouldn't be considered a privileged class. Yet that's exactly what they have become and use, manipulate, connive, and get around. Its high time it stops. They are no better than you or I. Nor any others. Time for our privileged servants to go back to just being servants. Perhaps if we actually started treating them like servants. They would get the message. What say ye?
    If they are flying on the taxpayer dime then yes, they should be in coach. If they are paying out of thier own pocket then who cares?
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