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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    and then there are the private jets..

    Sure, they should fly first class, as long as they're paying for it. Most of them can well afford to fly first class. If I had the money they do, I'd fly first class too.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I see no reason a member of Congress should not fly First Class, if he pays it out of personal income.
    Mornin' Jog. Yeah I wouldn't have a problem with it if that's what they are doing. But I think we know the majority aren't.

    As I am sure there are a few that aren't even in the position or have the gamesmanship to know how and when to connive and get around what the common people have to go thru.

    Wonder how they do with ATF.....huh?

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    It depends, if a member of congress has time restraints and no other option than to work during this travel time when he has to travel hours and hours (for example from Washington to Los Angeles) then yes, he can travel first class. But if he/she only has 1 or 2 hours to fly he/she can fly coach like the rest of America flies. He/she can wait to work after the trip has ended.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    It depends, if a member of congress has time restraints and no other option than to work during this travel time when he has to travel hours and hours (for example from Washington to Los Angeles) then yes, he can travel first class. But if he/she only has 1 or 2 hours to fly he/she can fly coach like the rest of America flies. He/she can wait to work after the trip has ended.
    Well, Campaigning they should have to up their own Money.....although truthfully just to do so from the Office they have in their State, especially when it comes to endorsing. No need to waste taxpayer money to run out to California to say he supports someone in his party. Most into politics know and those who are not.....don't care if so and so says I am endorsing whoever.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Recently we had a conference up here where alot of municipal workers, many of them on the Municipal dime were getting the best rooms we had at significant price increase and still had the nerve to complain about certain things that were free to begin with, I was really tempted to either call them out on it on the spot or contact their local newspaper.

    It was downright disgraceful.

    Any government employee who uses taxpayer money should get the most basic of the basic required to get through whatever it is. Now I also don't believe that necessarily means dangerous motel in Meth Town or a drunk pilot in a Cessna... wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.


    If this was the case, we would either have a bunch of Red Roof Inns spring up in DC or a funding operation that would make the Alumni Club at Ohio State look like like miserly clerics.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class?

    Last year, Bloomberg Businessweek ran a feature titled, The Pampered World of Congressional Air Travel. The story detailed the cushy and expensive travel bookings Congressman and Senators make on a regular basis with frequent trips back and forth to their home states and districts. The cost to taxpayers is enormous, but could be much less if they'd simply swallow their pride and sit in coach with the rest of us.



    "There is no more pampered class of air traveler than members of Congress.

    At Washington’s Reagan National Airport, they have their own special parking spaces—right up close to the terminal—that they don’t even have to pay for. As Bloomberg Television’s Hans Nichols reports, this perk costs the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority $738,760 in foregone revenue.

    To members of our fly-in-Tuesday-fly-home-Thursday Congress, these perks are a big deal. Most fly a lot, and many fly first class. They don’t just jet home to their districts. Sometimes, they’re jetting around the world at taxpayer expense ($23,646, to be specific), as Democratic Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas did in February. "

    "As with all federal spending, Member's Representational Allowance funds are taxpayer dollars. As such, the use of these funds must be exercised with the utmost efficiency and transparency. A loophole currently exists that allows members of Congress to fly first-class at the expense of the taxpayer. Members of Congress are servants of the people and should not be considered a privileged class. Luxury airfare accommodations utilizing taxpayer monies would seem inappropriate in any fiscal climate but at a time of soaring deficits and with a federal debt in excess of $17 trillion such expenditures are especially wasteful," the request states. "If federal restrictions prohibit members of our military from traveling first-class, this same standard should also apply to Members of Congress."

    "It's absolutely wasteful and completely unacceptable that Members of Congress - servants of the people - are currently allowed to fly first class using hard-earned taxpayer money.....snip~

    Why Are Members of Congress Using Your Money to Fly First-Class? - Katie Pavlich


    There you have it.....the loophole our servants always use. That they shouldn't be considered a privileged class. Yet that's exactly what they have become and use, manipulate, connive, and get around. Its high time it stops. They are no better than you or I. Nor any others. Time for our privileged servants to go back to just being servants. Perhaps if we actually started treating them like servants. They would get the message. What say ye?
    Personally I think elected officials in DC should have barracks style housing and chow halls similar to lower enlisted infantry troops in the late 1990s and early 2000s had and they all hop on an armored bus together to an from work and any after COB activities is paid for out of their pocket, if they go to a club,restaurant, fund raiser or some other activity then they pay for their own transportation, salaries of their security and other expenses.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Give them a travel allowance and when they spend it they can pay out of their pockets or walk.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Federal restrictions prohibit members of our military from flying first class?

    What?
    On military dime or even just being booked through military travel. If we want to foot the bill for our own ticket, we can fly first class. But we aren't even supposed to use our military charge cards (which are used for travel expenses) to upgrade when offered, even if we pay that difference when the bill comes in.
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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Federal restrictions prohibit members of our military from flying first class?

    What?
    I think he means that the military can't fly first class when using a government charge credit card.

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    Re: Should Members of Congress Be allowed to Fly First Class?

    Should members of Congress have to fly in on Sunday night and fly out on Friday night, working a full week like their constituents, especially considering all of their scheduled holidays? Is it wise for Mr. Cantor to cut Congress back to 114 official days this year, 12 less than last year ?
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