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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    so a vpn would do the trick as an alternative to tor is what you're saying? I was using the ads thing as an example, I mean I want that to stop, but I don't read every TOS for every app, site, yada yada so I was just looking for a way to click agree and thumb my nose at them from behind a locked door...

    (to reenforce your comment Travelocity does that crap all the time, Mon 800 a person Fri 875 sneaky bastards,,)
    Yes, but not for the deep web. You can't access the deep web without tor because it's a different network. The VPN just makes you someone else, gives you a private network, over the existing public one, the internet. TOR is not a public network.

    So yeah, if you have to use something, use VPN but again, I live for this **** and I don't use it. Install programs that block adds on your browser... and you're golden. Run CCleaner for cookies every week or every month... and that's it.

    I don't trust VPNs because the good ones are paid for and I like to have stuff memorized. I like to not have to log into DP every time I come to DP. I like not having to write my password every time I log into amazon because it remembers me. I like not having to do that for World of tanks. So it's a trade-off. With VPN, you have to do that. Every time you come to DP, you need to log in, write name and pass... and then what's the point of having VPN? If you want to go to amazon, you have to log in to order and then the internet, as in, anyone who wants to buy your data, will know that you bought X items from amazon and that's where your interests are because you shipped them to your home. So for me, it seems like an exercise in futility for day to day life.

    but you know, that's just like, my opinion.

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    so a vpn would do the trick as an alternative to tor is what you're saying? I was using the ads thing as an example, I mean I want that to stop, but I don't read every TOS for every app, site, yada yada so I was just looking for a way to click agree and thumb my nose at them from behind a locked door...

    (to reenforce your comment Travelocity does that crap all the time, Mon 800 a person Fri 875 sneaky bastards,,)
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the cookies they set on your computer have nothing to do with your ISP. Remember, I don't get catered ads or spam, vpn on or off.

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Yes, but not for the deep web. You can't access the deep web without tor because it's a different network. The VPN just makes you someone else, gives you a private network, over the existing public one, the internet. TOR is not a public network.

    So yeah, if you have to use something, use VPN but again, I live for this **** and I don't use it. Install programs that block adds on your browser... and you're golden. Run CCleaner for cookies every week or every month... and that's it.

    I don't trust VPNs because the good ones are paid for and I like to have stuff memorized. I like to not have to log into DP every time I come to DP. I like not having to write my password every time I log into amazon because it remembers me. I like not having to do that for World of tanks. So it's a trade-off. With VPN, you have to do that. Every time you come to DP, you need to log in, write name and pass... and then what's the point of having VPN? If you want to go to amazon, you have to log in to order and then the internet, as in, anyone who wants to buy your data, will know that you bought X items from amazon and that's where your interests are because you shipped them to your home. So for me, it seems like an exercise in futility for day to day life.

    but you know, that's just like, my opinion.
    Not sure what you're talking about here. My vpn is on right now, and I can auto-logon to DP and Amazon just fine. Of course, I've specifically allowed cookies from those sites to be placed onto my computer.

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The VPN I use gets consistently high ratings. In every technical forum, PIA is always in the top ten, if not the top 5.

    I've never approached security in terms of a silver bullet, but as multiple layers.
    No, that is completely true, it's not one silver bullet, it's multiple layers. If you are happy with your VPN, use the VPN. That's a good approach to enhancing personal security on the internet in this digital age. I just don't want the trade-off. To each his own.

    The best way to be secure is not have a facebook which you constantly update, not be a twitter whore, not be anything of the sorts. Which is a tragedy of this generation which is completely unprepared, because nobody prepared them... and you have 12-13 years old on facebook, growing up with the idea that posting your life online is OK, when in fact, it's not... and you know, that's not their fault. It's the fault of their parents who don't know any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not sure what you're talking about here. My vpn is on right now, and I can auto-logon to DP and Amazon just fine. Of course, I've specifically allowed cookies from those sites to be placed onto my computer.
    Well maybe you're using a better one than I have had experience with. I haven't been in that world of VPNs for 2 years so I may be out of date. But that's how it was for me. And yeah, so you're allowing cookies, ofc that does the trick.

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Yes, but not for the deep web. You can't access the deep web without tor because it's a different network. The VPN just makes you someone else, gives you a private network, over the existing public one, the internet. TOR is not a public network.

    So yeah, if you have to use something, use VPN but again, I live for this **** and I don't use it. Install programs that block adds on your browser... and you're golden. Run CCleaner for cookies every week or every month... and that's it.

    I don't trust VPNs because the good ones are paid for and I like to have stuff memorized. I like to not have to log into DP every time I come to DP. I like not having to write my password every time I log into amazon because it remembers me. I like not having to do that for World of tanks. So it's a trade-off. With VPN, you have to do that. Every time you come to DP, you need to log in, write name and pass... and then what's the point of having VPN? If you want to go to amazon, you have to log in to order and then the internet, as in, anyone who wants to buy your data, will know that you bought X items from amazon and that's where your interests are because you shipped them to your home. So for me, it seems like an exercise in futility for day to day life.

    but you know, that's just like, my opinion.
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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the cookies they set on your computer have nothing to do with your ISP. Remember, I don't get catered ads or spam, vpn on or off.
    I'll have to do some more digging as far as that aspect is concerned I just find it irritating as hell.
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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

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    Personal Opinion - I've used "Tor" and a few other VPN's for years. If one uses Tor for its "intended purposes" and knows the limitations of Tor, then it is an excellent tool to keep around. What Is Tor? Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The best way to be secure is not have a facebook which you constantly update, not be a twitter whore, not be anything of the sorts. Which is a tragedy of this generation which is completely unprepared, because nobody prepared them... and you have 12-13 years old on facebook, growing up with the idea that posting your life online is OK, when in fact, it's not... and you know, that's not their fault. It's the fault of their parents who don't know any better..
    This phenom I never understood, I use it as an easy way to stay in touch with extended family but posting updates every 15 minutes, I mean c'mon... Don't do twitter...I'm too long-winded...
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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    These buggards got you coming or going...
    Well, you know, it's not all bad. It can end up being a time-saver. For instance, I want that if I am interested in X things, that when I want to buy them at a discount, I will be announced, via ad, that said X things are at discount because they know that I've been interested in them but never bought them. So it's not all bad, it can end up being good and a positive for society. But yeah, privacy is dead, as in, it never really existed on the internet.

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    Re: Tor: Good or Bad? Safe or Dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ah, no. A vpn stands for virtual private network. It basically extends a private network over the public network which is the internet.

    TOR allows you to access the deep web, which you can't via VPN.

    So basically ,a VPN keeps you safe (your IP untraceable, or so they say)but you can't access the deep web.
    I don't trust a lot of VPNs. Ehm, I suggest you don't either because most are crap. You don't know, in truth, if a VPN is working or not. To you, it won't seem any different than using chrome incognito, as the end user. You don't see if it is working or not. So I wouldn't trust them.

    Honestly, as a common plebe, like myself, the best thing you can use a VPN for is to change your IP to another country. Like, for australians, use VPN when you log into steam and seem american so you pay american dollars at american rates for games. But your entire life, you'll have to be an american by VPN to access steam or the charade is done for.
    A small correction here: Steam actually goes off your billing address, not where you're logged in. I pay American prices here in Germany on Steam without a VPN because I still have my American debit card and bank account.

    As for the OP, I think it's mostly a very good thing and in most cases is secure.
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