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Thread: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I agree. That was a tongue in cheek comment. We don't have to act like Russia in order to put a lid on their ambitions. We have innumerable options. It's a little frustrating that we choose to portray our proposed actions as either weak, or a military confrontation. Also the idea that if it isn't done immediately, whatever it is we do, we've lost all credibility in the world and with our allies. None of that is true, although, like with all good stories, there's an element of truth in all of it. If Europe is deeply concerned, well, they should be. It's on their doorstep. They're the ones that sold themselves out to Russian energy rather than develop various sources. The only thing about Crimea that concerns me is the Russian warm water port, and they have had that port for quite a while anyway.
    They're welcome to have whatever ambitions they want to have, just like we are. Nobody in America ever stopped to think that maybe Russia (or China or anyone else) didn't like what we were doing. We probably should have, we've spent the last 50 years being dicks worldwide, but our leadership just did what they did, thinking we had a right to do it. So why is it suddenly different for everyone but us? Who died and elected us savior and protector of the planet? Nobody but that didn't stop us from pretending that we're special. I don't see Crimea coming to the U.S. or the UN asking to be protected from Russia, do you? So where is it our business what happens to them? If they want our help, they can ask for it and they can pay for it. The U.S. taxpayer has no obligation to pay for more dick-waving on the other side of the planet.
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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    North Korean is an run by a torturous, murderous totalitarian so there is nothing to be accomplished there anyway.
    Yup and they *WANT* to be. Who are we to tell them that they can't bow down to whoever they want to? Apparently, there are a lot of Americans that think we get to make all the decisions worldwide.

    Iran would have to be absolutely nuts not to obtain nuclear weapons if they can.

    I bet Argentina wished it had them in the Falklands war with the UK. My guess is the leader of Syria wishes he had half a dozen of them. It might be wise for Saudi Arabia and certainly Japan to ramp it up on nuclear weapons. I bet Yemen would spring for one if they could afford it.
    Mostly to protect themselves from us. If Iraq or Afghanistan had had nukes, we never would have invaded. We don't go to war with anyone who can fight back.
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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Hell - oooo, President Biden.
    Obviously, my 'resignation' reply was a smart-ass tongue in cheek response. ... now, seriously, he needs to be still and mind the matters of the U.S. He and his advisers seem unaware of Geo-politics... not stupid but uniformed long term view..

    Ol' Joe would probably be better as Pres.. at least in this situation for he would most likely have better, more experienced staff and Cab.

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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    how about deport all confederates that tried to break up this country
    Confederates- Slave masters - Democrats? Yes. Deport.

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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    most of the people in ukraine may not want american troops there i think

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    Re: What should Prez Obama do about Crimea?

    I think we should recognize Crimea a part of Russia since it was a referendum (if the referendum was in fact free or fair, is up to debate). We should use diplomacy to try to convince Russian troops to stop the assault on the Ukrainian troops to infact make way for a peaceful departure from those Ukrainian troops held up there in Crimea to return to Ukraine.


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