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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Could be used to call for help.
    You are right but how many times does a kid need to call for help?

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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are right but how many times does a kid need to call for help?
    Once is enough.
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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Example: Mary and her friends have been harassing Dorothy at school. Bullying, if you will. Said harassing and bullying eventually expands to walking home, and then beyond that to Facebook and the internet at all times of the day.

    Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?
    Short answer, schools are responsible for the safety and wellbeing of students on their property, their liability ends at that point and so does their authority. After the student leaves the grounds harassment and bullying are legal issues; as well as any assaults or batteries that occur at that point. The one difference I can see off grounds would be a school bus, if it is the schools property then the rule of "grounds" would apply, if it is a sub-contractor with a privately owned bus, the school would still be liable so it can be assumed authority is granted in that specific area.
    Should the school's authority to discipline stop at the school's property line?
    Without a doubt.
    Should the school be responsible until the student(s) get home?
    Never.

    Should the school have authority to discipline at all hours, which would essentially be anything and anywhere?
    No, however if they think a child is being abused they should have the right to make a report to authorities.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What should happen is that the plug should be pulled on all social media for the one being bullied . . . and the ones doing the bullying. No phone with internet access. No texting ability. No freakin' nuthin'.

    It is long past time that parents realize internet access, smartphones, dumb phones, unlimited texting plans, car keys, TVs in bedrooms, computers for other than school work . . . all if it . . . are perks to be earned. Not entitlements.
    My opinion differs a bit, but not by much. Cyber crime has been expanded to cover online harassment over social media which I can't say I disagree with, I wouldn't have a problem as well with expanding the civil liability of defamation "a bit" in light of the cyber bullying suicides that have been coming to light. Pushing a teen to the point of choosing to die is unacceptable, I think we can all agree to that, where I differ from you is in taking away access from the bullied child(though I agree it may be for the best ultimately to separate them from that trauma) though I wouldn't have a single problem with the bullies themselves being cut off by court order from all cyber activity.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I agree, give them one of those granny cell phones. Calls home, parents work, and 911.
    I wouldn't give a child of mine anything more than a basic phone, if they want to work for it later in their teens and buy one, different story.
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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why does a kid need a phone at all?
    I used to think that way too, I don't think they need a standard plan but something that they can use to call in an emergency, or if they need a ride home, something like that. Kids are kind of wild cards and sometimes stuff just comes up.

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Actually, I want to agree with this, but pay phones are few and far between - at least where I live.
    Pay phones are on the way to obsolescence, I don't think I've personally seen one in about five years.
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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    I think when student leaves schools, responsibility of school should end. Parents should play their roles.
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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

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    My Opinion (may be controversial)

    A school and teachers was and should continue to remain, a place to solely educate students. Adult education aside, too many schools, especially in urban areas, have turned into miniature armed camps where disruptive students make going to school actually dangerous. Many parents have abdicated their responsibilities and rights to be the primary educator in their child's life, which includes the social skills needed to succeed in society, to the school. So, aside being just educators of academic knowledge, they have to be nanny's, guidance counselors, disciplinarians, judges and behavioral specialists.

    Ideally, the school's responsibility should end at the door, but our litigious society has thrust more responsibilities on teachers. Complicating things is the budget cuts schools have endured and high turnover of teachers in urban areas.

    It is because of the lack of parental responsibility that is making schools become more involved in a students life once outside the door.

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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    it ends at the school's property line
    Or, when the student steps off the school bus at home.

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    Re: Where should the line be for a public school's authority over students?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Or, when the student steps off the school bus at home.
    Indeed. I forgot about the bus.

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