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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    I don't know. He wasn't talked about as much before he became a Democratic Presidential nominee.
    fortunately for you, you are speaking to someone whom does know. (I am a professional researcher.) Obama was discussed just as much as any other first term senator on Fox before he became a candidate.

    according to Lexis Nexis Fox News transcripts, Obama appears 96 times between 1/1/2006 and 11/30/2006. in all, he appears 206 times before 12/1/2006. (Keep in mind that the transcripts are not every word spoken on the network, just most of the pundit shows).

    the first mention of "Barack Hussein Obama" (according to Lexis Nexis) was on 12/5/2006, on Brit Hume's program. by that time it was looking more and more like he was definitely going to run.
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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    LOL! they showed Fox calling him that and you admitted it. you even pasted them doing it.
    I never said they didn't say it. I said that I never heard them say it and that their use of Obama's middle name is not bias. Other news companies say it also.

    do they?

    If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?

    I can't tell you how many times I've tuned in to see Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles SourKrauthammer talking about Iraq with no lefty in sight.
    I don't recall ever seeing that panel. Can you show an example of when that panel was used?

    Are Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer "Republican strategists?"

    I already said that they lean conservative in some aspects.

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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Imagine if our president was named George Adolph Bush.

    And people tried to relate him to Hitler by making his middle name, Adolph, prominent when referring to him. Kinda like Navy Pride does to Obama. How would you folks take that? How should anybody take that?

    We should all just be glad our mama's didn't name us Sue.

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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    fortunately for you, you are speaking to someone whom does know. (I am a professional researcher.) Obama was discussed just as much as any other first term senator on Fox before he became a candidate.
    I never said he wasn't. What I am saying is that Obama is talked about more often now than before he became a Democratic Presidential nominee.

    according to Lexis Nexis Fox News transcripts, Obama appears 96 times between 1/1/2006 and 11/30/2006. in all, he appears 206 times before 12/1/2006. (Keep in mind that the transcripts are not every word spoken on the network, just most of the pundit shows).



    the first mention of "Barack Hussein Obama" (according to Lexis Nexis) was on 12/5/2006, on Brit Hume's program. by that time it was looking more and more like he was definitely going to run.
    And...

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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Every news agency is biased. They have a specific audience and must tailor their media to the expectations of that audience. News agencies are commercial entities that requires ratings to make money.

    News agencies will not stop being biased until it is not run by those looking to get the highest ratings.
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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Every news agency is biased. They have a specific audience and must tailor their media to the expectations of that audience. News agencies are commercial entities that requires ratings to make money.

    News agencies will not stop being biased until it is not run by those looking to get the highest ratings.
    Well now, that's not very gibberish at all. I agree 100%.

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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by conser.pat15
    I never said they didn't say it.
    please tell me where I said you did. why do I have to remind you what it is we're talking about and why do you keep moving the goalposts?
    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    I said that I never heard them say it ...
    you said that at first, yes. and I helped you, I thought, by showing you when they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    ...and that their use of Obama's middle name is not bias.
    and this is what you started saying after you were shown that they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    Other news companies say it also.
    but they're not the topic, and if they do, it shows a similar bias also.
    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    I don't recall ever seeing that panel. Can you show an example of when that panel was used?
    I'd love to dig it up for you. care to answer some of my questions also?

    this isn't the exactly the same discussion that I saw, but on Feb 5, 2005, on Brit Hume's show, he had Brit Hume, Brian Wilson, Carl Cameron, Fred Barnes, Mort Kondracke, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Chris Wallace, and Juan Williams all on to discuss the State of the Union speech. How many Liberals in that bunch?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    Are Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer "Republican strategists?"
    essentially they are. but what I said in connection with me bringing them up was, "If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?" you neglected to answer that question.

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    I already said that they lean conservative in some aspects.
    to say this, is to effectively say that Fox leans Liberal in some aspects. Just what aspects would those be, Pat? Please answer. how does Fox News lean Liberal in some aspects?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv.pat15
    And...
    all I can do is lead you to the water, Pat. the rest is up to you.
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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    please tell me where I said you did. why do I have to remind you what it is we're talking about and why do you keep moving the goalposts?
    you said that at first, yes. and I helped you, I thought, by showing you when they did.

    and this is what you started saying after you were shown that they did.

    but they're not the topic, and if they do, it shows a similar bias also.
    I never said that Fox News has never said Obama's middle name. Therefore, you did not "help" me. I said that I have never heard them say it (Obama's middle name) or seen them use it (Obama's middle name). I also don't think Obama's middle name shows any bias in Fox News.


    I'd love to dig it up for you. care to answer some of my questions also?
    I am waiting for the all conservative panel.

    this isn't the exactly the same discussion that I saw, but on Feb 5, 2005, on Brit Hume's show, he had Brit Hume, Brian Wilson, Carl Cameron, Fred Barnes, Mort Kondracke, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Chris Wallace, and Juan Williams all on to discuss the State of the Union speech. How many Liberals in that bunch?
    This panel does not prove me wrong. I said that Fox News does lean conservative in some aspects, but that they do give both sides (I said something about having a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist.) of the issue being discussed. Mort Kondrake is not a conservative and neither is Juan Williams.

    essentially they are. but what I said in connection with me bringing them up was, "If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?" you neglected to answer that question.
    I don't know if they have ever had an all conservative panel. I said that when they talk to strategists, they show a Republican and a Democrat.

    to say this, is to effectively say that Fox leans Liberal in some aspects. Just what aspects would those be, Pat? Please answer. how does Fox News lean Liberal in some aspects?
    The aspects I am talking about have to do with their hosts. They do have more conservative hosts in their opinion shows.

    all I can do is lead you to the water, Pat. the rest is up to you.
    OK.

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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
    I haven't given up any rights, our constitution outlaws unreasonable searches and siezures, I hardly think that tapping the phones of those in contact with AQ members overseas would be considered unreasonable.
    Not anymore, I suggest you read and undertand the legality of the patriot act.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
    There are 1.5 billion muslims around the world if only 10% (a conservative estimate) are radicalized that is an enemy consisting of 150 million. Now it only takes one of those to get their hands on a nuclear or biological weapons to wipe out hundreds of thousands if not millions of my fellow citizens, and if my government doesn't do everything in their power to protect us from such criminals, who (make no mistake about it) would wipe out every last American given the chance, then we need new government put in their place.
    That would be a shame, but I do believe now that you pissed off those 150 million people, they are more eager than ever to get hands on a nuke, or bio/chemo attack in the US(now also the UK because of Iraq). The risk now is substantially higher for that than it was before Iraq. I agree your government should do whatever they need to protect you from that. There must be a better way than killing of their countrymen, which surely will only make them more pissed off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
    No we let the terrorists win by nuking a U.S city, killing millions of Americans, attacking and attacking without response or repercussion, and by not defending ourselves. Your type of naive philosophy was tried under the Clinton administration who could have prevented 9-11 if not for insane policies like the Clinton-Gorelick wall which prevented the CIA and Operation able Danger from giving the FBI the name of AQ agent and ringleader of the Planes Operation Mohammad Atta. In order to engage this enemy we need a pro-active intelligence apparatus.
    You invaded the wrong country, you should have invaded North Korea instead, they are the one most likely to sell a nuclear weapon to terrorists, not Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror, Saddam was not involved, he was not in the plane like you Americans believe. The Bush administration could also have prevented 911 if they had listened to intelligence days and months ahead of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
    That's a load of paranoid delusional bull****. U.S. citizens still retain Habeas Corpus rights and the right to trial in civilian court, and strict guidelines are placed on surveilance and sneak and peak searches.
    FBI and local police can now attack whoever they want, they can arrest someone without proof, they can hold them for an unlimited time and with no rights, they can put surveilance on every US citizen and tap their communication and electronical devices. Thats not freedom in my ears. The US used to be freedom, now the free place on earth is Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
    You think AQ and radical Islam is limited to 100 people? It must be nice to live in your fantasy world.
    Did I say that? Again your mind deceives itself, and twist the reality. You introduced the patriot act because of the planning and action of maybe 100 people on 911. That is the loss, you lost all those rights because of a 100 people, was it worth it?
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    Re: Is FOX news biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    Sorry you just proved you have no idea what you are talking about.
    I watched fox news daily for 2 years.
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