View Poll Results: Do military treaties have any value?

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  • Somewhat, they are just a tactic.

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  • No, countries should act in their self interests regardless of treaties.

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  • No, they are worthless.

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    Do military treaties have any value?

    From the history with Native Americans, to treaties concerning Germany, Poland and Russia, to Ukraine, it would seem the best way to understate a military treaty between nations is to write a "NOT!" in front of it.

    Do military treaties have any value? Or are the worthless at best and often just trickery?
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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    From the history with Native Americans, to treaties concerning Germany, Poland and Russia, to Ukraine, it would seem the best way to understate a military treaty between nations is to write a "NOT!" in front of it.

    Do military treaties have any value? Or are the worthy at best and often just trickery?
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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    From the history with Native Americans, to treaties concerning Germany, Poland and Russia, to Ukraine, it would seem the best way to understate a military treaty between nations is to write a "NOT!" in front of it.

    Do military treaties have any value? Or are the worthy at best and often just trickery?
    Ask the members of NATO.

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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Ask the members of NATO.
    You have no opinion?

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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You have no opinion?
    That IS my opinion.

    The member nations of NATO obviously see value in the treaty.

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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    That IS my opinion.

    The member nations of NATO obviously see value in the treaty.
    You mean their/our treaty with Ukraine?

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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Treaties, like any contract, are only as valid as the enforcement authority makes them. The problem with any contract, agreement or treaty is who, if anyone, will enforce the terms (and how). Having a contract often makes you legally entitled to damages for its terms being violated but getting a court judgement for $1 million is not the same as actually getting paid that $1 million.
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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    I think we are being chumps in NATO for how much of a share we pay in defense of the other NATO countries.

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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    From the history with Native Americans, to treaties concerning Germany, Poland and Russia, to Ukraine, it would seem the best way to understate a military treaty between nations is to write a "NOT!" in front of it.

    Do military treaties have any value? Or are the worthless at best and often just trickery?
    Just because some were made and broken doesn't mean they're all worthless.
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    Re: Do military treaties have any value?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You mean their/our treaty with Ukraine?
    there is no treaty with Ukraine....there is however an agreement, that they will be considered for one.

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