View Poll Results: Will the Ukraine lead to further Regional Conflicts?

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  • Yes, Putin is determined to build an empire.

    20 39.22%
  • No, we'll crush them economically.

    2 3.92%
  • Our military really scares them.

    1 1.96%
  • Diplomacy will win the day.

    5 9.80%
  • This event will fade away in time.

    25 49.02%
  • Give them a basket of fish.

    8 15.69%
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Thread: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Onion article?
    Close. All posted on this thread. The Onion isn't quite so absurd.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You've heard it all now?
    So, you'd already heard about Russia annexing Alaska, Finland, Poland, and China while Mexico takes over Texas?
    Don't forget the annexation of Australia and Brazil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Don't forget the annexation of Australia and Brazil.
    How could I have missed that little gem?
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Close. All posted on this thread. The Onion isn't quite so absurd.
    I thought my red-painted war-blimp invasion was a nice touch.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You've heard it all now?
    So, you'd already heard about Russia annexing Alaska, Finland, Poland, and China while Mexico takes over Texas?
    Mexico also expects at least the City of Los Angeles, too, don't forget! It even sounds Mexican.... : China has probably already told Russia to forget annexing them, because Russia can't afford them! Hey, you can't win 'em all!

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Perhaps both.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    It may have already been said since I have not read the thread but..

    US - Russia who wins? Nobody

    But the poll question does not really jive with the question posed in the thread title, which is what I was answering.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Russia's Putin seems to be on this track.
    He should know that man has progressed, that the age of empires is over.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Here's the deal. Putin and Russian nationalists are acting out of weakness. He invaded Ukraine, not because he was in control, but because he had lost control. I see a very weak Russia becoming more authoritarian and turning to military solutions because they are beginning to yearn for the good old days when the world shook in their boots at the mention of the USSR. The reality of the state of Russia internally and around the world is quite different, however. They are acting as though they are the USSR without actually being in a position to act that way. This will blow back in Putin's face big time. He is isolating himself and his country. In a world where being connected is essential for growth, he is trying to steer Russia into isolation and belligerence.
    This may all be true to some degree but the main reason they're struggling for control over the Ukraine is gas and border security. Russia needs the money and backed Assad in Syria to block the southern gas line from Qatar from coming thru. The more old provinces Russia loses dominance over, the less resources they have for financial returns and global influence.


    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I think Crimea is gone and that's all Russia really wants, in my view. I read somewhere recently that the Russian people were angry with Stalin originally, and Brezhnev later, for ceding Crimea to the Ukraine. Putin is basically, in the Russian view, righting an historical wrong. In addition, I think Russia only wanted Crimea and for two reasons - the deep water harbour for the Russian Black Sea fleet and the underwater oil and natural gas deposits in the territorial waters off Crimea.

    Once the Russian parliament adopts motions to accept Crimea's vote to join the Russian federation, I think their part in this uprising will be over. It will depend, however, on whether or not the Ukrainians let the Crimean decision, such as it is, stand or if they do something that expands the hostilities further and drags the west in.

    Russia definitely wants Crimea because of its peoples alliance and naval bases, but they didn't support Yakanovich just to annex Crimea. Currently, about two-thirds of Russia’s gas exports to Europe travel through Ukraine. Though, I think they could settle for Crimea and build alternative pipelines to the EU, gaining the offshore deposits.

    The Ukrainians will definitely not want to loose that province, but I'm not sure Russia will allow much of a resistance. That's why the poll, and wondering how far will the West resist Putin's advances?
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    This may all be true to some degree but the main reason they're struggling for control over the Ukraine is gas and border security. Russia needs the money and backed Assad in Syria to block the southern gas line from Qatar from coming thru. The more old provinces Russia loses dominance over, the less resources they have for financial returns and global influence.





    Russia definitely wants Crimea because of its peoples alliance and naval bases, but they didn't support Yakanovich just to annex Crimea. Currently, about two-thirds of Russia’s gas exports to Europe travel through Ukraine. Though, I think they could settle for Crimea and build alternative pipelines to the EU, gaining the offshore deposits.

    The Ukrainians will definitely not want to loose that province, but I'm not sure Russia will allow much of a resistance. That's why the poll, and wondering how far will the West resist Putin's advances?
    let russia have crimea. let ukraine have the rest.
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