View Poll Results: Will the Ukraine lead to further Regional Conflicts?

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  • Yes, Putin is determined to build an empire.

    20 39.22%
  • No, we'll crush them economically.

    2 3.92%
  • Our military really scares them.

    1 1.96%
  • Diplomacy will win the day.

    5 9.80%
  • This event will fade away in time.

    25 49.02%
  • Give them a basket of fish.

    8 15.69%
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Thread: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Who would have thought just a month ago, that the Russian Federation a bite a pice of an independent European country?
    anyone who understood anything about the Ukraine and Crimea, about Putin and the fall of the Soviet Union. None of the current events there should have been a surprise.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Russia seems to have Crimea, locked up, as a part of their country.

    How far will the US and EU pursue this issue, after the Crimea province and Ukraine leadership is settled and stable?

    Is this about energy only, or are we really concerned about the people?
    Here's the deal. Putin and Russian nationalists are acting out of weakness. He invaded Ukraine, not because he was in control, but because he had lost control. I see a very weak Russia becoming more authoritarian and turning to military solutions because they are beginning to yearn for the good old days when the world shook in their boots at the mention of the USSR. The reality of the state of Russia internally and around the world is quite different, however. They are acting as though they are the USSR without actually being in a position to act that way. This will blow back in Putin's face big time. He is isolating himself and his country. In a world where being connected is essential for growth, he is trying to steer Russia into isolation and belligerence.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So I was wondering....

    If the Crimean people want to join Russia, and legitimately voted to do so, have we any right to stop them?
    what everyone is forgetting is that the Ukraine has been part of Russia since 1946. The ouster of the legally elected government [on grounds of corruption] was fed and abetted by the CIA and eager encouragement of Germany, that latter of which has rolled over.

    As much as America loves to demonize Putin, he is a legally elected leader and is sworn, as is Obama, to protect his nation's interests. Now pause for a second and consider what would be the US reaction if the Russian equivalent of the CIA had managed to overthrow the legally elected government of Canada?
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Russia seems to have Crimea, locked up, as a part of their country.

    How far will the US and EU pursue this issue, after the Crimea province and Ukraine leadership is settled and stable?

    Is this about energy only, or are we really concerned about the people?
    I think Crimea is gone and that's all Russia really wants, in my view. I read somewhere recently that the Russian people were angry with Stalin originally, and Brezhnev later, for ceding Crimea to the Ukraine. Putin is basically, in the Russian view, righting an historical wrong. In addition, I think Russia only wanted Crimea and for two reasons - the deep water harbour for the Russian Black Sea fleet and the underwater oil and natural gas deposits in the territorial waters off Crimea.

    Once the Russian parliament adopts motions to accept Crimea's vote to join the Russian federation, I think their part in this uprising will be over. It will depend, however, on whether or not the Ukrainians let the Crimean decision, such as it is, stand or if they do something that expands the hostilities further and drags the west in.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Who cares?

    What is this, a football game?
    Last edited by DA60; 03-16-14 at 09:03 PM.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    anyone who understood anything about the Ukraine and Crimea, about Putin and the fall of the Soviet Union. None of the current events there should have been a surprise.
    For Alaska, I will fight. I have 50 acres of land there.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    For Alaska, I will fight. I have 50 acres of land there.
    OK, then, Putin is forewarned.

    I wouldn't bother arming that militia just yet, however.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Russian empire in Europe. lulz

    I've heard it all now.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Russian empire in Europe. lulz

    I've heard it all now.
    You've heard it all now?
    So, you'd already heard about Russia annexing Alaska, Finland, Poland, and China while Mexico takes over Texas?
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You've heard it all now?
    So, you'd already heard about Russia annexing Alaska, Finland, Poland, and China while Mexico takes over Texas?
    Onion article?

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