View Poll Results: Will the Ukraine lead to further Regional Conflicts?

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  • Yes, Putin is determined to build an empire.

    20 39.22%
  • No, we'll crush them economically.

    2 3.92%
  • Our military really scares them.

    1 1.96%
  • Diplomacy will win the day.

    5 9.80%
  • This event will fade away in time.

    25 49.02%
  • Give them a basket of fish.

    8 15.69%
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Thread: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what can we do?
    I'm sure that's Obama's sentiments exactly. Helplessness. Weakness. He's a weak and helpless leader.

    If he doesn't know what to do, he should step down and let someone with some balls and a brain upstairs run the show.

    What we should do is take a strong stand. We should send troops to Kiev to send a message. We should train and arm the Ukrainian military.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah..nothing is a ballsy as spending tax payer money and others people's lives. Those Hawkish Presidents are real Rambos.
    Obama is scared of Russia, so he is damaging our country out of his cowardice.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm sure that's Obama's sentiments exactly. Helplessness. Weakness. He's a weak and helpless leader.

    If he doesn't know what to do, he should step down and let someone with some balls and a brain upstairs run the show.

    What we should do is take a strong stand. We should send troops to Kiev to send a message. We should train and arm the Ukrainian military.
    what? and run the risk of provoking this?

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what? and run the risk of provoking this?
    Don't be afraid. RUSSIA are the ones provoking nuclear war, not the United States.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Don't be afraid. RUSSIA are the ones provoking nuclear war, not the United States.
    and we don't want to have a war.

    We know our limits.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and we don't want to have a war.

    We know our limits.
    So just let Russia walk all over us? The Kremlin is making a land/power grab and Obama is sitting around like a flaccid wet noodle. What an absolute sissy.

    Nobody said anything about us going to war, but we need to assist the Ukrainians.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Obama is scared of Russia, so he is damaging our country out of his cowardice.
    How has the US been damaged other than in the mind of some Americans that think everything in the world that happens is a slap in the face to America?
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    How has the US been damaged other than in the mind of some Americans that think everything in the world that happens is a slap in the face to America?
    At the end of WW2, there was a sort of stalemate between the Russians and the Americans over what to do with a then-tattered Europe. A tentative balance held during the Cold War, where eastern bloc countries like Poland, East Germany, and Soviet States like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and so forth fell under the sphere of Russian influence. Western European states (the NATO states) fell under the American sphere.

    At the end of the Cold War, the balance shifted decidedly westward. Poland and Germany shifted from East to West. The European Union formed.

    Where the Russians seem to have drawn the line is with the old Soviet states. Under the Bush administration, they invaded Georgia. As Ukraine seemed to be moving westward, the Russians, predictably, reacted with force.

    If we simply allow Russia to take Ukraine, we see the balance of power in Europe shift away from the United States and toward Russia for the first time since the end of the Cold War.

    Unsurprisingly, it's happening under the leadership of Barak Obama.

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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    At the end of WW2, there was a sort of stalemate between the Russians and the Americans over what to do with a then-tattered Europe. A tentative balance held during the Cold War, where eastern bloc countries like Poland, East Germany, and Soviet States like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and so forth fell under the sphere of Russian influence. Western European states (the NATO states) fell under the American sphere.

    At the end of the Cold War, the balance shifted decidedly westward. Poland and Germany shifted from East to West. The European Union formed.

    Where the Russians seem to have drawn the line is with the old Soviet states. Under the Bush administration, they invaded Georgia. As Ukraine seemed to be moving westward, the Russians, predictably, reacted with force.

    If we simply allow Russia to take Ukraine, we see the balance of power in Europe shift away from the United States and toward Russia for the first time since the end of the Cold War.

    Unsurprisingly, it's happening under the leadership of Barak Obama.
    strange how russia is alone on this issue.

    BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia isolated in UN Crimea vote

    Russia has vetoed a draft UN resolution criticising Sunday's secession referendum in Ukraine's Crimea region - the only Security Council member to vote against the measure.

    China, regarded as a Russian ally on the issue, abstained from the vote.

    Western powers criticised Russia's veto over the referendum, which will ask Crimeans if they want to rejoin Russia.
    funny how china abstained from voting with russia against the resolution.
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    Re: U.S. - Russia, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    strange how russia is alone on this issue.

    BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia isolated in UN Crimea vote



    funny how china abstained from voting with russia against the resolution.

    The entire history of Russia is that of a country isolated from the rest of the world. "Isolating" Russia will have no effect at all.

    Furthermore, the only action thus far taken has been to freeze the assets of some top Crimean and some mid-level Russian officials. That's like slapping the with a wet noodle.

    Russians respond to power and force. Obama is the wrong man for the job as he is neither powerful nor forceful.

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