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Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?

  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    Votes: 7 12.7%

  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    Votes: 35 63.6%

  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 12.7%

  • I Love Chicken Parm

    Votes: 9 16.4%
  • Total voters
    55
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Gipper said:
It's called "estrogen".
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Then when we get old enough that estrogen is declining, and we willingly get in your face, because we don't much worry about what you think anymore, you guys complain that we don't act like women anymore. :lol:
 
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ChrisL said:
Oh, and I'm sure YOU are perfect right? You don't say, "oh, will you make it for me, because I don't know how." :lol:
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nope. and I have never, ever used the excuse "you should do it because you are a girl"
 
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lizzie said:
Then when we get old enough that estrogen is declining, and we willingly get in your face, because we don't much worry about what you think anymore, you guys complain that we don't act like women anymore. :lol:
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Haha. Nah. You're just too old to give a damn what other people say or think.

Old men get that way too...just not quite as much.
 
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Gipper said:
Obviously so.
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Look, talking to you about any issues regarding men and women is useless. You are so obviously been hurt and poisoned against woman by some woman or women in the past, it's just useless talking to you.
 
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ChrisL said:
But that doesn't stop you from saying that SHE should have made better decisions. What if she's 15 years old and he's 23 years old or even older? I suppose it's all her fault for making a "bad" decision. He's just a victim of the bitchy evil women.
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why is it, in all of your little hypotheticals, she is just an innocent little victim and he is some violent jerk or child molestor?
 
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OscarB63 said:
nope. and I have never, ever used the excuse "you should do it because you are a girl"
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OscarB63 said:
why is it, in all of your little hypotheticals, she is just an innocent little victim and he is some violent jerk or child molestor?
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Because you and your friends keep saying she's a bitch. Maybe she isn't a bitch, maybe he's a jerk?
 
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ChrisL said:
Look, talking to you about any issues regarding men and women is useless. You are so obviously been hurt and poisoned against woman by some woman or women in the past, it's just useless talking to you.
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the same could be said about you regarding men. not an accusation, just an observation.......
 
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ChrisL said:
Look, talking to you about any issues regarding men and women is useless. You are so obviously been hurt and poisoned against woman by some woman or women in the past, it's just useless talking to you.
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Sorry, but I won't let that happen. Any woman who thinks that her rights trump all else, including my own, can go...in the words of Beyonce..."to the left, to the left".
 
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ChrisL said:
But that doesn't stop you from saying that SHE should have made better decisions. What if she's 15 years old and he's 23 years old or even older? I suppose it's all her fault for making a "bad" decision. He's just a victim of the bitchy evil women.
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Since I am a woman, and I believe that women typically have more self-control capability regarding their sexuality, especially at a young age, as compared to their young male counterparts, yes, I do expect women to make more intelligent decisions regarding their bodies. The fact that it is the woman's body which gets impregnated makes it even more imperative that they protect themselves, if they are intelligent enough to do so.
 
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OscarB63 said:
the same could be said about you regarding men. not an accusation, just an observation.......
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Not true at all, I love men.
 
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lizzie said:
Since I am a woman, and I believe that women typically have more self-control capability regarding their sexuality, especially at a young age, as compared to their young male counterparts, yes, I do expect women to make more intelligent decisions regarding their bodies. The fact that it is the woman's body which gets impregnated makes it even more imperative that they protect themselves, if they are intelligent enough to do so.
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This is obviously not true, or we wouldn't be HAVING these conversations. :roll: Maybe YOU have a lot of control over your sexual desires, this is obviously NOT the case for others.
 
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ChrisL said:
Because you and your friends keep saying she's a bitch. Maybe she isn't a bitch, maybe he's a jerk?
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IIRC, the discussion started out with him being called a jerk. all the comments of "maybe she's a bitch" were in rebuttal to the original portrayal of him as the bad guy.

IOW... you started it :2razz:
 
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ChrisL said:
This is obviously not true, or we wouldn't be HAVING these conversations. :roll: Maybe YOU have a lot of control over your sexual desires, this is obviously NOT the case for others.
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Then it's a damn shame to have to admit that women are so stupid.
 
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lizzie said:
Then it's a damn shame to have to admit that women are so stupid.
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If it makes you feel any better, you don't need to preach to this choir. :D
 
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ChrisL said:
Not true at all, I love men.
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except when you are assuming they are jerks or taking advantage of 15 y/o girls... ;)

point being, you have made comments that could be construed as you hating men, just as gipper has made comments that could be construed as him hating women.
 
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ChrisL said:
But that doesn't stop you from saying that SHE should have made better decisions. What if she's 15 years old and he's 23 years old or even older? I suppose it's all her fault for making a "bad" decision. He's just a victim of the bitchy evil women.
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A 15-year old is usually a silly teenager who doesn't think about the future, but where were her parents when she's dating and having sex with a 23 year old male?
 
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lizzie said:
Then it's a damn shame to have to admit that women are so stupid.
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what's really a damn shame is that 90% of people are so stupid. male or female......
 
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leoborn said:
A 15-year old is usually a silly teenager who doesn't think about the future, but where were her parents when she's dating and having sex with a 23 year old male?
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where's 5-O? that **** is illegal.....
 
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OscarB63 said:
IIRC, the discussion started out with him being called a jerk. all the comments of "maybe she's a bitch" were in rebuttal to the original portrayal of him as the bad guy.

IOW... you started it :2razz:
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That is not true. Most of us arguing the case have been arguing it from the perspective of a patient having the right to make medical decisions and having privacy because that's really ALL that matters in this case.
 
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OscarB63 said:
where's 5-O? that **** is illegal.....
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What makes you think all parents CARE? Where do you live that this is the case anyway? Did you seriously not know any teenage girls who dated older guys of questionable character?
 
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leoborn said:
A 15-year old is usually a silly teenager who doesn't think about the future, but where were her parents when she's dating and having sex with a 23 year old male?
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Some parents just don't care. I would think these things are common sense.
 
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OscarB63 said:
what's really a damn shame is that 90% of people are so stupid. male or female......
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Why does she keep saying that the "women" are so stupid? What about the men? Are they NOT stupid too? My GOD! I can't even believe it.
 
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Gipper said:
If it makes you feel any better, you don't need to preach to this choir. :D
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Well, there's plenty of people who want to give stupid people a pass. It's historically been recognized that a young dick is blind, but we used to think that girls had enough good sense to make up for their male counterparts' wrecklessness, but nowadays, it's an equal opportunity stupidity-controlled world that we live in. It is a good thing that I don't control the destiny of makind. I would be inclined to scrap it and start over. ;)
 
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ChrisL said:
What makes you think all parents CARE?
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what makes you think I do? I am on record multiple times saying that many parents are pieces of ****

Where do you live that this is the case anyway?
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where did I say that it was?

Did you seriously not know any teenage girls who dated older guys of questionable character?
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know 'em? I f***ed 'em! :lamo
 
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