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Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?


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Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Maybe, but I am curious as to where this absolute blatant display of hatred of women comes from?

I would have to dig into Gipper's post history and dig out these posts of woman hatred in order to answer that question. I'd rather have a root canal.

Perhaps, me being a male, I have not been as sensitive to them as you might have been and they went over my head.

I think the ol' Gipper might be a product of a different place in time. I think he hate's equally. But you could be right. I dunno.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I would have to dig into Gipper's post history and dig out these posts of woman hatred in order to answer that question. I'd rather have a root canal.

Perhaps, me being a male, I have not been as sensitive to them as you might have been and they went over my head.

I think the ol' Gipper might be a product of a different place in time. I think he hate's equally. But you could be right. I dunno.

Ummm, he called this particular woman in the OP a "cum dumpster" and has made several other derogatory comments about "women" in general. :confused:

Oh, my mistake, it was in the other thread, which is basically a spin off from this one.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...udge-blocks-dad-delivery-room-w-829-a-95.html
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Just a thought I had, you display SO MUCH hatred towards women, perhaps you might be gay? :) Honest question.

I don't hate women. I hate women who act like that. A woman who would rob a father of an experience like that, one he's trying desperately to be a part of, is an awful person.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I don't hate women. I hate women who act like that. A woman who would rob a father of an experience like that, one he's trying desperately to be a part of, is an awful person.

You don't know anything about it. He could be abusive and trying to control her and the situation. That happens too, you know. It is obvious to me that if he actually cared about the health and well-being of the baby, he would NOT push this issue. She is NOT stopping him from making contact with the child after it's born. He is trying to force his presence onto HER. The baby doesn't know what the hell is going on.
 
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Your DESIRE to watch your child be born does NOT trump her right to medical privacy. That baby is a part of HER body until the umbilical cord is cut. The woman specifically put HIS name on the approved visitor list so that HE can have the opportunity to bond with his child. I do NOT see any venom on HER part here. She simply does not want him there while she is in that condition. Maybe she just doesn't LIKE him.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I don't hate women. I hate women who act like that. A woman who would rob a father of an experience like that, one he's trying desperately to be a part of, is an awful person.

I get called a woman hater all the time because I speak up against what individual women do. It's really not my problem that people can't separate my problem with an individual person and all the women of the world, but apparently people struggle with such concepts like a woman can be a ****ing bitch and I can have a problem with it without hating on all women.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I get called a woman hater all the time because I speak up against what individual women do. It's really not my problem that people can't separate my problem with an individual person and all the women of the world, but apparently people struggle with such concepts like a woman can be a ****ing bitch and I can have a problem with it without hating on all women.

Women are immune to criticism or judgment. To say otherwise is misogynistic.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

The only way the Father should get to be in the room is if he can help bear some of the labor pains. If he can't, then NO!
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

The only way the Father should get to be in the room is if he can help bear some of the labor pains. If he can't, then NO!

So when he holds out his hand for her to hold, is it because they're on a first date?
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I get called a woman hater all the time...

I would think on that, if I were you.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I would think on that, if I were you.

If you are here to tell me something it would be nice if you would do so.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I don't hate women. I hate women who act like that. A woman who would rob a father of an experience like that, one he's trying desperately to be a part of, is an awful person.

You do not know how she is acting. You do not know how the relationship ended. You were not privy to any of it. You are making snap judgment on behavior you know nothing about. What IS misogynistic is you making a judgment of a woman in the context of a relationship you know nothing about.

As a someone who has worked in the health care field more than three decades....nothing has changed - privacy is of the utmost importance and you do not do things to make situations more stressful if it is not medically required or avoidable. And certainly labor and delivery is a situation that is already amped up with physical and emotional stress - no need to push her blood pressure through the roof so dad could witness the birth.

But keep on acting like you know what happened - judgmental of an entire individual based on one single decision. Nice

I will take it a further step. Even IF she is the be all end of manipulative Queen Bitches ......she still doesn't want him there and it would add more stress to the situation that could end up impacting the baby. Decision is the same. It is not about him it is about the health and welfare of the patient and the baby she is attempting to deliver.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

If you are here to tell me something it would be nice if you would do so.

No one calls me, say, a paedophile all the time, or a racist, or a mugger or a gangster, because if I was somebody probably would have mentioned it by now. Enough people call me another thing frequently enough to make me think it's not just coincidence. So if "everybody" is calling you a woman hater, it might be time to look inwards.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Maybe, but I am curious as to where this absolute blatant display of hatred of women comes from?
It isn't hatred of all women. It is speaking out for what he sees as an injustice. You know for the past 100 years women learned the only way to get rights was to speak up and fight for them. And when they did they were called hateful man haters etc. If you truly believe in equality among the sexes, then you must be insistent that both are treated fairly and not be a cheerleader for just your own gender.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Maybe it's because he's not a sheep.

Yeah, that's it. Henrin is a total rebel.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Yeah, that's it. Henrin is a total rebel.

He's not a rebel. He just stands up for an unpopular right.

Would you call Rosa Parks a rebel? How about Susan B. Anthony?
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I'm sorry. What damages the couple's relationship? Watching the delivery? I think I might have heard of that happening before. I would never allow it to be videotaped. No way.

Google "sex after giving birth" and see the list.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

He's not a rebel. He just stands up for an unpopular right.

Would you call Rosa Parks a rebel? How about Susan B. Anthony?

The idea that Henrin could be compared to Rosa Parks or Susan B. Anthony on any topic deserves mockery.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Google "sex after giving birth".

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Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Considering what it takes for him to get her pregnant, you don't get to hide behind a morality or a decency curtain in this argument.

Really? Does a woman want to use the bathroom in front of a man even after having sex with him?

Do you know how messy and disgusting that delivery room is? The suppositories given early in labor dont always work....And she is at her most vulnerable...who wants to share that stuff...OR ANYTHING....with someone she obviously no longer trusts?
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Just a thought I had, you display SO MUCH hatred towards women, perhaps you might be gay? :) Honest question.

?? Since when do gay men hate women?

Honest question.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

?? Since when do gay men hate women?

Honest question.

When she catches him wearing the same outfit as her.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

-- It does not seem as if this man in the OP story is a "caring" person at all --

No two ways about it - an ex who demands to be present during childbirth is not there for any reason than to humiliate his ex.

I don't hate women. I hate women who act like that. A woman who would rob a father of an experience like that, one he's trying desperately to be a part of, is an awful person.

You seem to be under the impression an ex wishes to be present during an extremely trying and emotional time for another human being for the sake of his child?

What is truly awful is someone wishing to traumatise a mother during birth. As a few others have commented so far - no doctor or midwife is ever going to give in to such a demand if the mother does not wish it.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

No two ways about it - an ex who demands to be present during childbirth is not there for any reason than to humiliate his ex.



You seem to be under the impression an ex wishes to be present during an extremely trying and emotional time for another human being for the sake of his child?

What is truly awful is someone wishing to traumatise a mother during birth. As a few others have commented so far - no doctor or midwife is ever going to give in to such a demand if the mother does not wish it.

Traumatize. LOL!
 
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