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Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?


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Really? Was she able to create that life on her own? The answer is NO.

Yes, check the law please because that is exactly what it means. Her body so her choice. I am sorry to have to put it that bluntly but that is how the law works and thanks goodness for that or women would become slaves to men who could just knock them up and force them to have children.

The right to decide what happens inside a womans body is hers to decide and hers alone (as long as she complies with the laws in the US). So if she wants to have a legal abortion (again, in accordance to the US laws) than that is her choice and nobody else's decision.

And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.

And then again a woman who allows herself to get involved in a sexual relationship with no commitment and is stupid enough to not protect herself since she is the one that will ultimately carry the child for 9 months and go through the delivery process could be deemed as a real idiot.

I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.

If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.

Depends on where you live. Men often find themselves thinking they are going to be a father then the mother doesn't want to be a mother so the baby goes up for adoption without the father's knowledge. How f-ing selfish of any woman that would do that, not allowing the father the opportunity to raise their own child?

Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.

Yes she does, but what a f-ing bitch to deny the father of her child, estranged or not that right! My Gawd, the number of kids born today that many of the mothers don't know who the father is and this guy was real sure he was the daddy.

Yes, you may have that opinion but thankfully the law does not give a flying fig about what your or this guys opinion is of the woman. How dare she want some privacy while she is having her baby. How dare she care for the safety of her child and not the childish bullying behavior of the selfish jerk that was her ex-boyfriend. He has no legal right to demand this, his lawyer knew because there was not one legal ground he put in the document presented in court to move the judge to allow him to be present. This guy was throwing a temper tantrum because the mother who is carrying something he would like to see born healthy would not allow him there where he had no legal or moral business being.

And I do not give a crap about the number of kids that are born to mothers who do not know the identity of the person who made her pregnant, but just like this woman that woman too would have been totally within her legal and moral right not to have him present in the delivery room.

And again, I could care less if this guy thinks he is the father. Until the baby is actually born he is nothing, not a single thing in the eyes of the law.

Yada Yada Yada. Facts are men are jilted everyday with anything related to a woman's pregnancy. Her body her choice. Got it. Even though she couldn't produce that child on her own. It took a man's donation of himself. Yet the woman can have this right to end a pregnancy of a child that a man helped create. He loses. She has the right to have a baby when a man does not want one and be faced with 18 years of child support. What's wrong with this picture?

He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.

And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.

Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.
 
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Yes, check the law please because that is exactly what it means. Her body so her choice. I am sorry to have to put it that bluntly but that is how the law works and thanks goodness for that or women would become slaves to men who could just knock them up and force them to have children.

The right to decide what happens inside a womans body is hers to decide and hers alone (as long as she complies with the laws in the US). So if she wants to have a legal abortion (again, in accordance to the US laws) than that is her choice and nobody else's decision.

And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.



I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.

If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.



Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.



Yes, you may have that opinion but thankfully the law does not give a flying fig about what your or this guys opinion is of the woman. How dare she want some privacy while she is having her baby. How dare she care for the safety of her child and not the childish bullying behavior of the selfish jerk that was her ex-boyfriend. He has no legal right to demand this, his lawyer knew because there was not one legal ground he put in the document presented in court to move the judge to allow him to be present. This guy was throwing a temper tantrum because the mother who is carrying something he would like to see born healthy would not allow him there where he had no legal or moral business being.

And I do not give a crap about the number of kids that are born to mothers who do not know the identity of the person who made her pregnant, but just like this woman that woman too would have been totally within her legal and moral right not to have him present in the delivery room.

And again, I could care less if this guy thinks he is the father. Until the baby is actually born he is nothing, not a single thing in the eyes of the law.



He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.

And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.

Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.

Peter, Peter, Peter.... women made of glass, who like to scream equality yet are not willing to take personal responsibility for their choices love men like you. I believe very much in equal rights. Spent a good deal of my life fighting for those rights for women. I have found myself on occasion having to make waves not being paid equally for the same job a man does. But what I see women getting away with today while claiming their so called rights is disgusting. Especially when it comes to the subject of men's rights pertaining to anything related to a pregnancy to child custody. If she ever wants to be taken seriously she best demand an equal playing field and not one she claims special benefits and only then be willing to do battle. Until then there is nothing equal about it
 
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Peter, Peter, Peter.... women made of glass, who like to scream equality yet are not willing to take personal responsibility for their choices love men like you. I believe very much in equal rights. Spent a good deal of my life fighting for those rights for women. I have found myself on occasion having to make waves not being paid equally for the same job a man does. But what I see women getting away with today while claiming their so called rights is disgusting. Especially when it comes to the subject of men's rights pertaining to anything related to a pregnancy to child custody. If she ever wants to be taken seriously she best demand an equal playing field and not one she claims special benefits and only then be willing to do battle. Until then there is nothing equal about it

I am not whitewashing anyone in the case a woman gets pregnant. Both parties had part in that but whereas a man only has an economic responsibility in the whole issue, nobody can force him to stay home with his child etc. But normally women cannot get away from their responsibilities, she is normally the one who is going to take care and raise the child.

And in this case it is not about the guy not being allowed to see his child, the woman has already testified in court that his name will be on the hospital visiting list so that he can see his child. The only thing the woman did not want is the added aggravation of having someone with whom she already had a difficult relationship with and dragged her into court (costing her and his child money for lawyers etc.) for him demanding something he is not entitled to under the law. Her wishes are not outlandish, she just wanted to not have him be there in the delivery room. She has to concentrate on giving birth, this guy being in there is not going to be beneficial for her or the baby.

Women privacy during labor, that is guaranteed to her under the law. This man is the disrespectful jerk for demanding something he had no right to demand from the woman. You might think that is special benefits but I think that is her constitutionally guaranteed right and that is not a special benefit, that is a right.
 
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I am not whitewashing anyone in the case a woman gets pregnant. Both parties had part in that but whereas a man only has an economic responsibility in the whole issue, nobody can force him to stay home with his child etc. But normally women cannot get away from their responsibilities, she is normally the one who is going to take care and raise the child.

And in this case it is not about the guy not being allowed to see his child, the woman has already testified in court that his name will be on the hospital visiting list so that he can see his child. The only thing the woman did not want is the added aggravation of having someone with whom she already had a difficult relationship with and dragged her into court (costing her and his child money for lawyers etc.) for him demanding something he is not entitled to under the law. Her wishes are not outlandish, she just wanted to not have him be there in the delivery room. She has to concentrate on giving birth, this guy being in there is not going to be beneficial for her or the baby.

Women privacy during labor, that is guaranteed to her under the law. This man is the disrespectful jerk for demanding something he had no right to demand from the woman. You might think that is special benefits but I think that is her constitutionally guaranteed right and that is not a special benefit, that is a right.

Yes you are guilty of "whitewashing" your posts but I am sure there are a number of women on this forum to give you kudos for that. Truth is you have no idea what led up to this man filing a court order to have the right to watch the birth of his child. The report says they were estranged. That had to happen within the pregnancy whether it be 6 weeks in or a week before her delivery date, you have nothing to go on. She may have been all for it up till the end and for some reason decided to change her mind. You see whatever mama wants mama gets under the current playing field and that is just wrong. Men have rights too.
 
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And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.

Interesting. So where does that sperm in a sperm bank come from? Is it perhaps the same place it would otherwise come from?


I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.

So basically the man has no choice but to be a parent, but the woman has more than one out card. Nice.

If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.

Couldn't we say the same thing for women if abortion is ever banned? Gosh, if she was just smarter.

Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.

Really, you're not sure and one of your arguments is that it might break up his marriage? Well yeah, that is what happens when you cheat and have a kid. **** has a tendency to hit the fan in those situations. Are you saying his wife should be left in the dark? How nice of you.

He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.

Are you the leader of all white knight everywhere? The fact is when a woman aborts the pregnancy she is not only ending the pregnancy and her chance of being a mother, but taking from the man his child as well. You can think of that whatever you want, but that is just the way it is.

And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.

So one is probably wrong, but the other is certainly wrong? Interesting.

Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.

Really dude, do you even read the crap you're posting? The double standard nonsense is more than a little ridiculous. I like the part where your protested the prospect of the woman being a slave to the man, but promoted the man being a slave to the woman.
 
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Why would he not be able to see his own child? Unless he's some sort of criminal offender, he should have the right to see HIS child.

He is being allowed to see his kid, just not during the delivery. He can see his kid just like all other dads did after pacing the hall while their wives did the giving birth. It is not like she is keeping their kid away from him, she is just not wanting him in the delivery room.
 
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Yes you are guilty of "whitewashing" your posts but I am sure there are a number of women on this forum to give you kudos for that. Truth is you have no idea what led up to this man filing a court order to have the right to watch the birth of his child. The report says they were estranged. That had to happen within the pregnancy whether it be 6 weeks in or a week before her delivery date, you have nothing to go on. She may have been all for it up till the end and for some reason decided to change her mind. You see whatever mama wants mama gets under the current playing field and that is just wrong. Men have rights too.

No, I am not. And secondly, he does not have the right to watch the birth of his child. Not only is that the opinion of the court but also the opinion of the law.

Men do have rights, but being in the delivery room during the birth is not a right they have.
 
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What will be next? Granny in there, Granddad too, mother in law, father in law, mother, father, granddad of the father, grandmother of the father, brother, sister, sister in law, brother in law, aunties, uncles, sons and daughters. Why not have the whole even catered? Throwing the plates like a good old Greek dinner party when the baby comes out? Have a bar in there why don't you so that everybody can get their drunk on during all those boring hours where the mother has to lie there in labor pain. Why not add some computer games, wifi so that people can use their mobile phones to do some whatsapping and facebooking, install TV screens so that the next world cup game or superbowl can be watched by all during the "dull" labor wait.

Let's be a bit normal, one woman giving birth, a medical team and 1 or 2 people to support the mother during her difficult times when she is trying to give birth to her child.

I don't know what is hard to understand about this. As a MAN, he should be able to respect her as a fellow human being. Otherwise, he's no man IMO.
 
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No, I am not. And secondly, he does not have the right to watch the birth of his child. Not only is that the opinion of the court but also the opinion of the law.

Men do have rights, but being in the delivery room during the birth is not a right they have.

Exactly, and is it just me, or do some of these older woman posting seem to have a lot of hate for younger woman. "Whatever mama wants mama gets" kind of says it all. :lol:

I feel sorry for the younger men who listen to these bitter old women and let them poison them against women with hate like that.
 
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There are studies that show it damages a couple's sexual relationship afterward...short and long term.

Not to mention it's often videoed. Ugh.

I'm sorry. What damages the couple's relationship? Watching the delivery? I think I might have heard of that happening before. I would never allow it to be videotaped. No way.
 
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Yes you are guilty of "whitewashing" your posts but I am sure there are a number of women on this forum to give you kudos for that. Truth is you have no idea what led up to this man filing a court order to have the right to watch the birth of his child. The report says they were estranged. That had to happen within the pregnancy whether it be 6 weeks in or a week before her delivery date, you have nothing to go on. She may have been all for it up till the end and for some reason decided to change her mind. You see whatever mama wants mama gets under the current playing field and that is just wrong. Men have rights too.

:lamo And YOU don't know either. I think this bitchy little statement tells us all we need to know.
 
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Peter, Peter, Peter.... women made of glass, who like to scream equality yet are not willing to take personal responsibility for their choices love men like you. I believe very much in equal rights. Spent a good deal of my life fighting for those rights for women. I have found myself on occasion having to make waves not being paid equally for the same job a man does. But what I see women getting away with today while claiming their so called rights is disgusting. Especially when it comes to the subject of men's rights pertaining to anything related to a pregnancy to child custody. If she ever wants to be taken seriously she best demand an equal playing field and not one she claims special benefits and only then be willing to do battle. Until then there is nothing equal about it

OMG! :rofl Sorry, but I don't believe that for ONE second. What "rights" for women have you ever fought for? Here you are wanting men to be able to FORCE themselves upon these women.
 
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Really? Was she able to create that life on her own? The answer is NO.

And then again a woman who allows herself to get involved in a sexual relationship with no commitment and is stupid enough to not protect herself since she is the one that will ultimately carry the child for 9 months and go through the delivery process could be deemed as a real idiot.

But HE isn't stupid? Hmmmm. Very interesting.

Depends on where you live. Men often find themselves thinking they are going to be a father then the mother doesn't want to be a mother so the baby goes up for adoption without the father's knowledge. How f-ing selfish of any woman that would do that, not allowing the father the opportunity to raise their own child?

Oh really? This happens "often?" Let's see some statistics and links. Look at you, freaking out and calling women "selfish" who you don't even know. This tells us MUCH more about you and how you are full of hate for younger women. I wonder what happened to make you so hateful?

Yes she does, but what a f-ing bitch to deny the father of her child, estranged or not that right! My Gawd, the number of kids born today that many of the mothers don't know who the father is and this guy was real sure he was the daddy.

The "f-ing bitch?" Sorry but your little tantrum here makes you seem . . . . well, I'm sure you can figure it out. :shock:

Yada Yada Yada. Facts are men are jilted everyday with anything related to a woman's pregnancy. Her body her choice. Got it. Even though she couldn't produce that child on her own. It took a man's donation of himself. Yet the woman can have this right to end a pregnancy of a child that a man helped create. He loses. She has the right to have a baby when a man does not want one and be faced with 18 years of child support. What's wrong with this picture?

Ha-ha!!! And you "fight for women's rights?" OMG! :lol: Let me put it to you THIS way. Obviously, he was stupid and a dumb bitch for hooking up with a woman without knowing anything about her for sex alone.
 
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Yes, check the law please because that is exactly what it means. Her body so her choice. I am sorry to have to put it that bluntly but that is how the law works and thanks goodness for that or women would become slaves to men who could just knock them up and force them to have children.

The right to decide what happens inside a womans body is hers to decide and hers alone (as long as she complies with the laws in the US). So if she wants to have a legal abortion (again, in accordance to the US laws) than that is her choice and nobody else's decision.

And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.



I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.

If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.



Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.



Yes, you may have that opinion but thankfully the law does not give a flying fig about what your or this guys opinion is of the woman. How dare she want some privacy while she is having her baby. How dare she care for the safety of her child and not the childish bullying behavior of the selfish jerk that was her ex-boyfriend. He has no legal right to demand this, his lawyer knew because there was not one legal ground he put in the document presented in court to move the judge to allow him to be present. This guy was throwing a temper tantrum because the mother who is carrying something he would like to see born healthy would not allow him there where he had no legal or moral business being.

And I do not give a crap about the number of kids that are born to mothers who do not know the identity of the person who made her pregnant, but just like this woman that woman too would have been totally within her legal and moral right not to have him present in the delivery room.

And again, I could care less if this guy thinks he is the father. Until the baby is actually born he is nothing, not a single thing in the eyes of the law.



He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.

And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.

Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.

But SHE had the fortitude to break it off with him, and now this man is trying to FORCE a relationship with this woman who doesn't want to have a relationship with him. I cannot believe that people would be supporting this guy and supporting letting people into the delivery room that mom might HATE!

And it really doesn't matter if someone thinks she's a "bitch" or not. That is besides the point. The point is that she is entitled to her privacy during a medical procedure. IF she allows him in there with her, it is a privilege for him and NOT a right. No where does it say that a man has a "right" to watch his baby be born and to force the patient to allow him to be there with her. It's completely bogus and goes against everything to do with medical privacy and patient confidentiality.

I am stunned by the stupidity being displayed on this thread, especially by some alleged "women." Obviously, bitter old biddies. Lol!
 
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[h=1]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/judge-says-pregnant-women-can-bar-fathers-delivery/nfCPd/

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?

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No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that --

In most happy relationships I would guess most women would want their supportive partner in the room however as soon as you get into the situation of exes, rapists etc then the obvious answer is no.

Birth is an incredibly sensitive time for the mother and her emotions and hormones do affect the unborn - birth can also be incredibly messy and bloody so having a woman feel violated right at her most vulnerable physical state is no good for anyone except a father who is out for revenge.
 
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In most happy relationships I would guess most women would want their supportive partner in the room however as soon as you get into the situation of exes, rapists etc then the obvious answer is no.

Birth is an incredibly sensitive time for the mother and her emotions and hormones do affect the unborn - birth can also be incredibly messy and bloody so having a woman feel violated right at her most vulnerable physical state is no good for anyone except a father who is out for revenge.

That is how I see this particular situation. It does not seem as if this man in the OP story is a "caring" person at all. It's horrible, and I'm horrified at the amount of people who would want to see people be able to force their way into the operating/delivery room. It's unbelievable to me.
 
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We are seeking entitlement because we support her right to keep her whoo hoo private? Man, our expectations are low....we should try for the right to vote or sumthin'.

Considering what it takes for him to get her pregnant, you don't get to hide behind a morality or a decency curtain in this argument.
 
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But SHE had the fortitude to break it off with him, and now this man is trying to FORCE a relationship with this woman who doesn't want to have a relationship with him. I cannot believe that people would be supporting this guy and supporting letting people into the delivery room that mom might HATE!

the only thing he was trying to "force" was to be present at the birth of his child. Nothing I saw indicated he was interested in any kind of "relationship" with this female. :shrug:
 
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the only thing he was trying to "force" was to be present at the birth of his child. Nothing I saw indicated he was interested in any kind of "relationship" with this female. :shrug:

But the fact remains that if she feels upset about it (regardless of the reason), it is putting the mother and child at risk. NO doctor is going to back that idea, EVER.

It can, at the very LEAST, prolong her labor, which is more traumatic and stressful for BOTH mom and baby. So if you CARE about your baby's health, you would NOT do something like this. You just wouldn't. Just watch a delivery and tell me if you think that POOR woman needs any more stressful environment?
 
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I was in the delivery room each time I had a child born unto me. Went through Lamaz (sp?) and all that too.

I would hope that every father would want to be present and welcomed.

But there are just too many scenerios possible that would render it a bad idea to make it a law, in stone, that every father has a RIGHT to be present. Not all situations were like mine.

But, the bottom line is, in a delivery room, in a hospital, the doctor's and nurses responsibility, first and foremost, is the health and well-being of the mother and the baby. They should not have to deal with whether a father does or does not have the right to be in the room. If they say he has to get out, he should have to get out. That goes for grandmothers and mothers-in-laws too.
 
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I guess, by this argument, women should be banned from the boardroom.
 
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I guess, by this argument, women should be banned from the boardroom.

Just a thought I had, you display SO MUCH hatred towards women, perhaps you might be gay? :) Honest question.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Just a thought I had, you display SO MUCH hatred towards women, perhaps you might be gay? :) Honest question.

That was not a question. That was a blatant attempt to render a backhanded slap in the face to Gipper, IMO

Just sayin'......
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

That was not a question. That was a blatant attempt to render a backhanded slap in the face to Gipper, IMO

Just sayin'......

Maybe, but I am curious as to where this absolute blatant display of hatred of women comes from?
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

No, I am not. And secondly, he does not have the right to watch the birth of his child. Not only is that the opinion of the court but also the opinion of the law.

Men do have rights, but being in the delivery room during the birth is not a right they have.
Currently he can't go into the delivery room without the woman's consent. Even without the courts, the hospital would not allow it. Maybe some day he will have the privilege to watch the birth of his child via a closed circuit TV. What I am arguing is how jilted the laws are against fathers and need to change. And slowly but surely fathers are gaining their overdue rights. But it is far from being fair. There's legislation coming forth in different states that would force the mother to notify the father in advance of an abortion. The man can't stop it but can then legally sue her for damages. There's been an increase in paternal grandparents being awarded custody of their grandchildren. There is other legislation that has been proposed, I believe in Utah and Michigan where a woman can not give up a child for adoption unless she has the consent of the father allowing him/his parents custody of the child. The whole "my body my choice" as a right is not constitutional when it denies paternal rights to fathers.
 
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