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Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room
Yes, check the law please because that is exactly what it means. Her body so her choice. I am sorry to have to put it that bluntly but that is how the law works and thanks goodness for that or women would become slaves to men who could just knock them up and force them to have children.
The right to decide what happens inside a womans body is hers to decide and hers alone (as long as she complies with the laws in the US). So if she wants to have a legal abortion (again, in accordance to the US laws) than that is her choice and nobody else's decision.
And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.
I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.
If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.
Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.
Yes, you may have that opinion but thankfully the law does not give a flying fig about what your or this guys opinion is of the woman. How dare she want some privacy while she is having her baby. How dare she care for the safety of her child and not the childish bullying behavior of the selfish jerk that was her ex-boyfriend. He has no legal right to demand this, his lawyer knew because there was not one legal ground he put in the document presented in court to move the judge to allow him to be present. This guy was throwing a temper tantrum because the mother who is carrying something he would like to see born healthy would not allow him there where he had no legal or moral business being.
And I do not give a crap about the number of kids that are born to mothers who do not know the identity of the person who made her pregnant, but just like this woman that woman too would have been totally within her legal and moral right not to have him present in the delivery room.
And again, I could care less if this guy thinks he is the father. Until the baby is actually born he is nothing, not a single thing in the eyes of the law.
He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.
And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.
Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.
Really? Was she able to create that life on her own? The answer is NO.
Yes, check the law please because that is exactly what it means. Her body so her choice. I am sorry to have to put it that bluntly but that is how the law works and thanks goodness for that or women would become slaves to men who could just knock them up and force them to have children.
The right to decide what happens inside a womans body is hers to decide and hers alone (as long as she complies with the laws in the US). So if she wants to have a legal abortion (again, in accordance to the US laws) than that is her choice and nobody else's decision.
And with sperm banks women don't actually need a man to get pregnant anyway.
And then again a woman who allows herself to get involved in a sexual relationship with no commitment and is stupid enough to not protect herself since she is the one that will ultimately carry the child for 9 months and go through the delivery process could be deemed as a real idiot.
I did not say the the woman does not have to take protection to avoid pregnancy if she does not want a child but your story was about men who were becoming fathers against their will because the woman would not have an abortion when she got pregnant. Again, in the first place her body so her decision and if she does not believe in abortion so be it, secondly, as I had said before, if a man wants to avoid such a situation he has to either use protection, have a vasectomy or not have sex with a woman.
If a man knocks up a woman he is the one who is running the risk of the girl having this baby and him having to pay for it. In hindsight he might have been a bit more smart and used protection.
Depends on where you live. Men often find themselves thinking they are going to be a father then the mother doesn't want to be a mother so the baby goes up for adoption without the father's knowledge. How f-ing selfish of any woman that would do that, not allowing the father the opportunity to raise their own child?
Well, it may be selfish but I do not know that. I would like to think that a woman would have the decency to notify the father but I am not sure that she is legally mandated to do that. In an ideal world a woman should have the respect for herself and the father to give him that opportunity but if the woman is not sure or does not want to break up a marriage (if her partner is married) then it might just be the best solution to give up to the child to people who want one and can care for one.
Yes she does, but what a f-ing bitch to deny the father of her child, estranged or not that right! My Gawd, the number of kids born today that many of the mothers don't know who the father is and this guy was real sure he was the daddy.
Yes, you may have that opinion but thankfully the law does not give a flying fig about what your or this guys opinion is of the woman. How dare she want some privacy while she is having her baby. How dare she care for the safety of her child and not the childish bullying behavior of the selfish jerk that was her ex-boyfriend. He has no legal right to demand this, his lawyer knew because there was not one legal ground he put in the document presented in court to move the judge to allow him to be present. This guy was throwing a temper tantrum because the mother who is carrying something he would like to see born healthy would not allow him there where he had no legal or moral business being.
And I do not give a crap about the number of kids that are born to mothers who do not know the identity of the person who made her pregnant, but just like this woman that woman too would have been totally within her legal and moral right not to have him present in the delivery room.
And again, I could care less if this guy thinks he is the father. Until the baby is actually born he is nothing, not a single thing in the eyes of the law.
Yada Yada Yada. Facts are men are jilted everyday with anything related to a woman's pregnancy. Her body her choice. Got it. Even though she couldn't produce that child on her own. It took a man's donation of himself. Yet the woman can have this right to end a pregnancy of a child that a man helped create. He loses. She has the right to have a baby when a man does not want one and be faced with 18 years of child support. What's wrong with this picture?
He did not loose anything but the possibility of a child being born. If she had an abortion than he did not loose anything except maybe the idea of becoming a father. That is the law and again, thank goodness or women would be slaves to the demands or men. Women had to put up with that thing for far too long.
And there is nothing wrong with that picture, there is possibly something wrong with the woman for having sex in a non-committed relation but there is most certainly something wrong with the guy, he was careless and impregnated a woman and that is almost entirely down to his own stupid decisions.
Sorry, I cannot feel guilty for some dumb schmuck who got a woman pregnant he did not want to get pregnant. He cannot claim he was not an active participant in that act so he has to pay the piper.