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Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?


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Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

The event of his child being born must have meant a great deal to him. She had to have known that. She said no, he got pissed, filed a suit, was denied.

LOL. No, none of those indicate that. You don't take money out of your own child's mouth if you care. PERIOD. You also don't complain about contributing to your child's upbringing in any way possible if you care about that child.
 
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Who's to say some women don't do that? :lol: There are ALL kinds out there. Some weirdos are even into "body condoms," so I'm sure those women exist. Personally, I like to have some pleasure out of my sex life too. WTH?! I think your perfect match would be a blow-up doll, seriously. :2razz:

I'm saying ONLY blowjobs.

And I reciprocate - usually on a ratio more beneficial to the woman.
 
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I'm saying there could be a paternity suit to follow.

But do you believe that a man is legally required to pay for any of the pregnancy related expenses?
 
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Maybe, but from all we have to go on, there is nothing to suggest that. The only thing the man seems interested in is the child.

Good morning, Vesper. :2wave:

:agree: I don't understand why he wants to be in the delivery room if she doesn't want him there. She obviously has bitter feelings about him, which is going to stress her when she needs to be as relaxed as possible. The doctors aren't going to switch babies or anything. Another thing I wanted to mention is that without blood work that proves he really is the father, since they aren't married - hey, it happens - what good will it do him to see the baby? It does sound like he cares about the baby, but those feelings apparently don't include the mother. The last thing anyone needs is a confrontation in the delivery room! Maybe I'm off base here, but this time I'm on the side of the woman who doesn't want her ex-boyfriend in the delivery room.
 
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None of these things you guys are saying makes any difference in this woman's right to privacy during the delivery of the child. Obviously this man makes HER feel uncomfortable and she doesn't want him there. She has NOT said she wouldn't let him see this child or be a part of this child's life. In fact, IIRC, she put his name in particular on the visiting list just so that he CAN come and see his baby. However, HE decided to be a douche and throw a tantrum over being there in the delivery room instead of concentrating on being a "dad" to this baby. THAT is what should be taking precedence here, the baby.
 
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LOL. No, none of those indicate that. You don't take money out of your own child's mouth if you care. PERIOD. You also don't complain about contributing to your child's upbringing in any way possible if you care about that child.

How in the heck did he take money out of his child's mouth? And how do you conclude that he will complain about contributing to his child's upbringing when all things show he has made claim to this child?
 
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And because it's a good idea to be safe rather than sorry. A lot of complications can occur within the first couple of days after a delivery. For example, after I delivered my son, I was internally bleeding and nobody knew until I started to display symptoms. If I had been at home by myself, I could have bled to death and died.
Not to mention that a bystander in the room isn't going to help the medical professionals. And may even become another patient. (passes out, gets his knuckle broken, etc... etc.)
 
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Good morning, Vesper. :2wave:

:agree: I don't understand why he wants to be in the delivery room if she doesn't want him there. She obviously has bitter feelings about him, which is going to stress her when she needs to be as relaxed as possible. The doctors aren't going to switch babies or anything. Another thing I wanted to mention is that without blood work that proves he really is the father, since they aren't married - hey, it happens - what good will it do him to see the baby? It does sound like he cares about the baby, but those feelings apparently don't include the mother. The last thing anyone needs is a confrontation in the delivery room! Maybe I'm off base here, but this time I'm on the side of the woman who doesn't want her ex-boyfriend in the delivery room.

Exactly, and IMO, if he cared at all about the baby (or the mom), he would not be behaving in this manner because his child's health and well-being would be of the utmost importance to him. Being there, if you are invited, is a privilege, not a right. Perhaps if he had tried talking with her about it and explaining that it meant a lot to him to be there, she would listen, but he chose to bring a lawsuit instead.

Perhaps he did try to speak with her, and she is just a bitch or she just REALLY does not like him anymore, I can't say, but if his presence makes her uncomfortable, that should be good enough for him to cease and concentrate on being a good dad.
 
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How in the heck did he take money out of his child's mouth? And how do you conclude that he will complain about contributing to his child's upbringing when all things show he has made claim to this child?

Filing a lawsuit against the mother? Lawyers cost money.
 
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Good morning, Vesper. :2wave:

:agree: I don't understand why he wants to be in the delivery room if she doesn't want him there. She obviously has bitter feelings about him, which is going to stress her when she needs to be as relaxed as possible. The doctors aren't going to switch babies or anything. Another thing I wanted to mention is that without blood work that proves he really is the father, since they aren't married - hey, it happens - what good will it do him to see the baby? It does sound like he cares about the baby, but those feelings apparently don't include the mother. The last thing anyone needs is a confrontation in the delivery room! Maybe I'm off base here, but this time I'm on the side of the woman who doesn't want her ex-boyfriend in the delivery room.

Good points Polgara, however, the child they created together is here now. Even though they are Ex they have something that will always connect them. She can no longer use the delivery room as an excuse to avoid reality. Let the lawsuits begin!
 
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Good points Polgara, however, the child they created together is here now. Even though they are Ex they have something that will always connect them. She can no longer use the delivery room as an excuse to avoid reality. Let the lawsuits begin!

That's cold. Obviously you care more about the man making a point than the health and well-being of mom and baby. How sad. :( Bless your heart.
 
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Maybe, but from all we have to go on, there is nothing to suggest that. The only thing the man seems interested in is the child.

Except for the fact that he was willing to add more stress to the birthing process. Who would want to do that????

He may be genuinely interested in his child, but his actions are showing that he does not care for the welfare of the mother who is carrying the child.

Even though the tide is slowing turning, men have gotten a raw deal where child support/custody issues are concerned. Gradually things are changing. But as far as childbirth is concerned....this is not a raw deal...it just is what it is. His actions hopefully are not a foreshadowing on their future.
 
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Really? Did he suffer morning sickness? Miss his college classes due to sickness? Miss out on a promotion at work because of sickness or exhaustion? Did he get gestational diabetes? Hemmeroids the size of grapes? High blood pressure? Did he pay ANY of her medical bills?

Really.
 
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But do you believe that a man is legally required to pay for any of the pregnancy related expenses?

Define the man.
 
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none of these things you guys are saying makes any difference in this woman's right to privacy during the delivery of the child.
bingo!
 
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Entertainment value aside, the common sense solution to this problem was established within the first few pages of the thread.

Paternal rights: Yes.

Fathers in the delivery room if it is going to cause problems: No.

The health and well being of the mother and baby simply come first.
 
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Good points Polgara, however, the child they created together is here now. Even though they are Ex they have something that will always connect them. She can no longer use the delivery room as an excuse to avoid reality. Let the lawsuits begin!

Why would you think she is using the delivery room to avoid reality? The privacy issue nails it. But the fact that his presence may cause her to become more stressed and unfocused is not selfish. It is for the sake of the baby. Their baby.
 
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Not to mention that a bystander in the room isn't going to help the medical professionals. And may even become another patient. (passes out, gets his knuckle broken, etc... etc.)

All I can say at this point is that I am very happy that my husband opted out of being in the delivery room! :mrgreen: The nurses suggested that he go get breakfast somewhere, which he did, and by the time he gobbled down some eggs and toast and returned, my son was delivered, which made all of us happy...me especially, since I'm not fond of pain! :lamo: Oddly, women apparently forget the pain, since I had other children after that! :confused:

Greetings, Mohammed. :2wave:
 
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All I can say at this point is that I am very happy that my husband opted out of being in the delivery room! :mrgreen: The nurses suggested that he go get breakfast somewhere, which he did, and by the time he gobbled down some eggs and toast and returned, my son was delivered, which made all of us happy...me especially, since I'm not fond of pain! :lamo: Oddly, women apparently forget the pain, since I had other children after that! :confused:

Greetings, Mohammed. :2wave:

Nature's got to trick you gals into popping those little buggers out somehow.

"Survival of the species," and all that. :lol:

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Honestly though (while I'm glad that you're happy with the results), I think I'd feel like a bit of heel going out to breakfast while my wife was in labor. lol
 
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I witnessed the birth of my son and, personally, I wish this ban on men in the birthing room was universally applied, regardless of the mother's wishes to include her husband. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

they actually forced me to cut the cord on both my kids. that was gross as hell. urk.....
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Define the man.

As in this situation, unmarried.

Is the man fathering the child financially responsible for her pregnancy expenses by law?

Is he responsible for medical expenses?

Is he responsible for her loss of work because of the pregnancy?
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

But do you believe that a man is legally required to pay for any of the pregnancy related expenses?

Nope. Her body, her bills.
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

Except for the fact that he was willing to add more stress to the birthing process. Who would want to do that????

He may be genuinely interested in his child, but his actions are showing that he does not care for the welfare of the mother who is carrying the child.

Even though the tide is slowing turning, men have gotten a raw deal where child support/custody issues are concerned. Gradually things are changing. But as far as childbirth is concerned....this is not a raw deal...it just is what it is. His actions hopefully are not a foreshadowing on their future.

Yes, men have been jilted and things aren't changing fast enough. In fact today the attitude of some women have gotten so crass toward men that now they see them as insignificant. She bought the lie that she could do it all on her own. And now decades later we live in a society full of kids who don't even know their father and tend to be those at high risk for destructive behavior which affects us all. Where once men felt it was useless to try and fight for custody are doing so. BRAVO for them. I see more men walking around with diaper bags toting their kids than ever before. It's nothing to see a car seat in the back of a BMW these days.
 
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Would he be liable for any of the hospital bills in this case?

They're not married, after all.

If she doesn't want him involved, then that should exclude ALL of him, including his checkbook.
 
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