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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    To a dad yeah being in the delivery room and cutting the cord means a lot.

    My ex had the adopting parents of our first 2 there and meant the world to them.
    That's really nice.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    To a dad yeah being in the delivery room and cutting the cord means a lot.

    My ex had the adopting parents of our first 2 there and meant the world to them.
    And how was the relationship between your ex and the parents who were going to adopt their kids? I bet you it wasn't estranged. And where they present during the entire labor or just the "cord cutting" procedure?

    And in a perfect world the dad would be present, but this is a case of 2 estranged individuals and if she does not want to be confronted with his presence in the delivery room then that is her choice.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And how was the relationship between your ex and the parents who were going to adopt their kids? I bet you it wasn't estranged.
    Of course it wasn't. What a silly question. Why would we give our child to an estranged couple? You don't seem to have a grasp on the real world. My comment you're quoting here was contained to what it means to men to be there when the child is born and does not say anything on my over-all position of the real story in OP; my position on that has already been posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And where they present during the entire labor or just the "cord cutting" procedure?
    The adopting father cut the cord both time, yes.

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    And in a perfect world the dad would be present, but this is a case of 2 estranged individuals and if she does not want to be confronted with his presence in the delivery room then that is her choice.
    That's pretty much what I said in my first post in this thread, quoted here for your reference:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes he has that right, and like all rights it has limitations such as being subordinate to the doctor's and mother's wish. If neither of those two people object, then the father has a right to assert against the wishes of others.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-20-14 at 05:36 AM.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Of course it wasn't. What a silly question. Why would we give our child to an estranged couple? You don't seem to have a grasp on the real world. My comment you're quoting here was contained to what it means to men to be there when the child is born and does not say anything on my over-all position of the real story in OP; my position on that has already been posted.
    I was just saying that being welcome is something that is absolutely imperative for the mother to be (during labor). And I was not saying an estranged couple but (and I know that would not happen), you made it like that.

    The only point is that people just do not want people in the delivery room that they are comfortable with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The adopting father cut the cord both time, yes.
    That was not what I was asking, where they in the delivery room during the entire birthing process or did they come in especially for the cutting of the cord?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's pretty much what I said in my first post in this thread, quoted here for your reference:
    That is what I feel too, I just do not understand one thing, if the doctor and the mother do not have a problem with the father being in the delivery room, who are the others who he has to "assert against"?
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The woman AND the man should prevent against diseases and pregnancy. Neither partner should count on the other.
    Definitely agree!

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I think that conservatives expect women to be more intelligent than the evidence suggests is the reality of the situation.

    As a conservative, I know that most times I expect people in general to be more intelligent than the evidence suggests is the reality of the situation. I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the population are morons.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    As a conservative, I know that most times I expect people in general to be more intelligent than the evidence suggests is the reality of the situation. I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the population are morons.
    Thus my suspicion that "Idiocracy"is a prophecy, rather than a mere movie.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    As a conservative, I know that most times I expect people in general to be more intelligent than the evidence suggests is the reality of the situation. I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the population are morons.
    90% of the population are certainly morons, but the better way to distinguish oneself from them might be to display the sort of acumen necessary to avoid linking intelligence to one's own political ideology.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    My only difficulty is that if she applies for government resources on behalf of the child, no way no how as a taxpayer do I want tax dollars supporting the child when the father is out there and able.
    I agree. That is a ridiculous idea. I cannot even believe someone would come up with this silly idea. Sure, let the dad walk so that everyone else can support HIS child financially? Not to mention, AGAIN, people are equating not being able to observe the delivery with not being able to see the child. This woman has clearly stated that this guy CAN see and have a relationship with the child. She simply does not want him present in the room with her when she is going through the delivery of the child. The two things have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Being in the delivery room, instead of right outside, means all that?

    If he's a real man, will he up and abandon personal relationship with his kid if he cant see it pop out?
    I know, it's incredibly retarded.

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