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  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

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  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I always thought sex to be a mutually agreed upon activity.

    By the way, men can be raped.

    Against his will: The reality of male rape - CNN.com
    Yes, in order for it not to be called a rape, it should be a mutually agreed upon activity. However, until we can all read minds, one of the two will take the initiative, and the other will agree or not. The point here is that the woman be ready to protect against pregnancy, if children are not wanted as a result of sex, and not count on her partner to have taken the precautions necessary. The same precautions are valid in your link on male rape, although this was a rape, and not consensual sex..

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Pretty sick of guys being put on the back burner in terms of their rights when it comes to a pregnancy. I firmly believe this is the only truly fair solution to the male/female equal responsibility thing when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

    It keeps everyone honest and gives the man a real voice in a decision that will also affect the rest of his life.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Yes, in order for it not to be called a rape, it should be a mutually agreed upon activity. However, until we can all read minds, one of the two will take the initiative, and the other will agree or not. The point here is that the woman be ready to protect against pregnancy, if children are not wanted as a result of sex, and not count on her partner to have taken the precautions necessary. The same precautions are valid in your link on male rape, although this was a rape, and not consensual sex..

    Greetings, year2late.
    The woman AND the man should prevent against diseases and pregnancy. Neither partner should count on the other.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by gb74 View Post
    Pretty sick of guys being put on the back burner in terms of their rights when it comes to a pregnancy. I firmly believe this is the only truly fair solution to the male/female equal responsibility thing when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

    It keeps everyone honest and gives the man a real voice in a decision that will also affect the rest of his life.
    My only difficulty is that if she applies for government resources on behalf of the child, no way no how as a taxpayer do I want tax dollars supporting the child when the father is out there and able.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by gb74 View Post
    Pretty sick of guys being put on the back burner in terms of their rights when it comes to a pregnancy. I firmly believe this is the only truly fair solution to the male/female equal responsibility thing when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

    It keeps everyone honest and gives the man a real voice in a decision that will also affect the rest of his life.
    Being in the delivery room, instead of right outside, means all that?

    If he's a real man, will he up and abandon personal relationship with his kid if he cant see it pop out?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    My only difficulty is that if she applies for government resources on behalf of the child, no way no how as a taxpayer do I want tax dollars supporting the child when the father is out there and able.
    In every state now, if the mother applies for public assistance, the state or county automatically does go after the father now, whether she wants them to or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Being in the delivery room, instead of right outside, means all that?

    If he's a real man, will he up and abandon personal relationship with his kid if he cant see it pop out?
    To a dad yeah being in the delivery room and cutting the cord means a lot.

    My ex had the adopting parents of our first 2 there and meant the world to them.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    In every state now, if the mother applies for public assistance, the state or county automatically does go after the father now, whether she wants them to or not.
    I personally know that to be a fact.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    In every state now, if the mother applies for public assistance, the state or county automatically does go after the father now, whether she wants them to or not.
    That's why it's really, really difficult for a parent (mother or father) to say..."Oh well, I don't want the kid, terminate my rights." Terminating rights ends a legal recourse for the state.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    In every state now, if the mother applies for public assistance, the state or county automatically does go after the father now, whether she wants them to or not.
    That was my issue with GB74s "fair solution".

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