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  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

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  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    38 56.72%
  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is all nothing but your opinion.
    Ummm... No, it's a statistical fact.

    Hello?

    Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?-sexual-partners-jpg

    Many WOMEN feel society has changed for the better. We don't have to stay married to the same boring or perhaps abusive man. We can make our own choices about our own sexuality and men like you cannot make us the way you want us to be.
    And you can also get knocked up out of wedlock and have to go through the difficult (and often impoverished) life of a single mother, which is what more than half of new mothers are now doing each year now; putting a serious strain on our economy and social welfare system.

    Men aren't the ones suffering for this newfound "freedom." Women are, more often than not.

    Hurray for "freedom of choice?"

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is all nothing but your opinion. Many WOMEN feel society has changed for the better. We don't have to stay married to the same boring or perhaps abusive man. We can make our own choices about our own sexuality and men like you cannot make us the way you want us to be.
    Of course you can, since you can take him to divorce court and take away his children and paycheck.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The man is just as responsible for protecting himself. She cannot get pregnant without him and he cannot get her pregnant without her. They share equal responsibility because both are aware of what they are doing and what could be the result. Your argument is very simplistic too because, as I said, there are MANY other variables to consider. You are assuming that everyone is a perfect person.
    Stop for just one minute and think. The woman is the one that carries the burden in a pregnancy. Every women knows men do not get pregnant. So why is she being so feckless in not protecting herself? Why does she risk her health and her future of opportunity over such recklessness? Evidently there are a lot of them out there that do just that. Why now when she has the world of opportunity at her feet to be all she can? Instead she's becoming more and more needy, lacking good judgment, and irresponsible willing to put out for anyone who wants her showing she lacks self worth while not protecting herself. It's a travesty.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Ummm... No, it's a statistical fact.

    Hello?

    Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?-sexual-partners-jpg



    And you can also get knocked up out of wedlock and have to go through the difficult (and often impoverished) life of a single mother, which is what more than half of new mothers are now doing each year now; putting a serious strain on our economy and social welfare system.

    Men aren't the ones suffering for this newfound "freedom." Women are, more often than not.

    Hurray for "freedom of choice?"
    Judging by the responses in this thread, I disagree.

    Also, this is all really irrelevant. It's happening, and you aren't putting Pandora back in the box. That's why it's important that both men and women take responsibility for their own behaviors.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I swear that some people think that because THEY have good relationships and good husbands that everyone else must too. That is simply not the case. Some women (and some men) are in less than ideal relationships.
    Then they are both stupid to create a child.

    Blunt, but true.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Stop for just one minute and think. The woman is the one that carries the burden in a pregnancy. Every women knows men do not get pregnant. So why is she being so feckless in not protecting herself? Why does she risk her health and her future of opportunity over such recklessness? Evidently there are a lot of them out there that do just that. Why now when she has the world of opportunity at her feet to be all she can? Instead she's becoming more and more needy, lacking good judgment, and irresponsible willing to put out for anyone who wants her showing she lacks self worth while not protecting herself. It's a travesty.
    Like I said, you are assuming that people are perfect. That is not the case. People make mistakes and bad decisions all the time. Where do you get off expecting this "perfection" from women and not from men? Maybe the men should be offended by how stupid you seem to think they are?

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Then they are both stupid to create a child.

    Blunt, but true.
    No, people are not perfect and make bad decisions. Have you NEVER had a bad relationship, even as a teen? Give me a break. I don't believe it. You've NEVER made a bad decision? Yes, some people's bad decisions have more dire consequences, but they are still bad decisions and not necessarily "stupidity." I was 16 when I got pregnant. Maybe I was stupid, but I was young, naive and inexperienced, and I fell for an older guy.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Judging by the responses in this thread, I disagree.

    Also, this is all really irrelevant. It's happening, and you aren't putting Pandora back in the box. That's why it's important that both men and women take responsibility for their own behaviors.
    Eh. It is what it is.

    What it is, incidentally, is a really damn stupid way of doing things, which just so happens to cause far more problems than it solves.

    I'm just calling things as I see them. lol

    In any case, don't mind me. I just got off of work, and I'm kind of grouchy.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Eh. It is what it is.

    What it is, incidentally, is a really damn stupid way of doing things, which just so happens to cause far more problems than it solves.

    I'm just calling things as I see them. lol

    In any case, don't mind me. I just got off of work, and I'm kind of grouchy.
    That's your opinion. Some people don't have hangups about sex and do practice responsible sex, and NO that doesn't mean they are just sleeping with anyone indiscriminately.

    I thought I would make that last statement because you seem to always think it has to be one extreme or the other.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Gotta go to work for a couple of hours! See ya later!

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