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  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    15 22.39%
  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

    1 1.49%
  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    38 56.72%
  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

    3 4.48%
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't see how you can say that about teenage girls. They have ALWAYS gotten pregnant, it was just hidden in the past. Yes lizzie, women have sex drives too AND they get horny. That doesn't mean they are "stupid" either.
    Having a sex drive and getting horny is not stupid. The inability to either control it, protect yourself from pregnancy (and disease), or masturbate in lieu of unprotected sex IS stupid. Anyone who is a slave to their sexuality is lacking in intelligence to one degree or another. I have a healthy sex drive, but I'm not stupid enough to act on it, and regret it later. I'm not expecting women to be Einsteins. I'm expecting them to use reasonable judgement with regard to their own bodies.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, there's plenty of people who want to give stupid people a pass. It's historically been recognized that a young dick is blind, but we used to think that girls had enough good sense to make up for their male counterparts' wrecklessness, but nowadays, it's an equal opportunity stupidity-controlled world that we live in. It is a good thing that I don't control the destiny of makind. I would be inclined to scrap it and start over.
    This is SUCH old-fashioned outdated thinking. Intelligence and good decision-making has NOTHING to do with gender.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Having a sex drive and getting horny is not stupid. The inability to either control it, protect yourself from pregnancy (and disease), or masturbate in lieu of unprotected sex IS stupid. Anyone who is a slave to their sexuality is lacking in intelligence to one degree or another. I have a healthy sex drive, but I'm not stupid enough to act on it, and regret it later. I'm not expecting women to be Einsteins. I'm expecting them to use reasonable judgement with regard to their own bodies.
    BOTH sexes need to do this. BOTH are guilty of making bad and good decisions. This has NOTHING to do with gender but are traits of an INDIVIDUAL.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is SUCH old-fashioned outdated thinking. Intelligence and good decision-making has NOTHING to do with gender.
    What do you expect? I am old-fashioned. I was smart as a young woman. When I decided to become sexually active, I understood that doing so would put me at risk. I picked up the phone, called a PP office, made an appointment, went and had a gyn exam, got my little pack of BC pills, and went on my merry way. I took my little BC pill every morning, just like a person with a marginal IQ is capable of, and what-do-you-know, I didn't get pregnant. I took the responsibility for my own body, and my own well-being, upon myself. I did not expect a 17 year-old boy to be responsible for my body. If responsibility for self is old-fashioned, we could sure as hell use a little more of it these days.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some parents just don't care. I would think these things are common sense.
    So you think that since she is 15 years old, she should have common sense at that age? Most don't, but maybe he didn't know how old she was. Maybe he wants to make sure she makes it through childbirth safely, and that's his reason for wanting to be there. Can 15 year old girls even marry someone legally in this country?

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    BOTH sexes need to do this. BOTH are guilty of making bad and good decisions. This has NOTHING to do with gender but are traits of an INDIVIDUAL.
    But the GIRLS are the ones who get pregnant. I'm not sure why my stance is so hard to understand. My body= My responsibility.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    BOTH sexes need to do this. BOTH are guilty of making bad and good decisions. This has NOTHING to do with gender but are traits of an INDIVIDUAL.
    trouble is, the girls have all the control when it comes to sex. if she doesn't allow it, it doesn't happen unless he rapes her.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    But the GIRLS are the ones who get pregnant. I'm not sure why my stance is so hard to understand. My body= My responsibility.
    and the girls are the ones who decide when and if sex is going to occur (except for rape).
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is SUCH old-fashioned outdated thinking. Intelligence and good decision-making has NOTHING to do with gender.
    The hell it doesn't . The sooner a woman starts acting responsibly when it comes to sex, where abortions are no longer used as a means of birth control or she keeps popping out kids because she couldn't handle taking her birth control responsibly, because she doesn't seem too interested in making sure her child has a stable environment complete with a father........maybe others would start taking her seriously. As a woman it is embarrassing that my gender have so many "accidents" when it comes to getting pregnant. It saddens me that she thinks so little of herself to freely engage in unprotected sex.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    -- Maybe he wants to make sure she makes it through childbirth safely, and that's his reason for wanting to be there--
    If you're talking about the court case in question - there are better ways than taking the person through court during pregnancy or even wishing to force his presence on her during childbirth.

    Basic science here regarding how hormones and emotions pass on to the child. I'm surprised it's gone to 47 pages without that being regarded.

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