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  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I didnt see you actually answer it, my bad, I didnt phrase it as a question:

    Would you want your daughter taking unnecessary risks and feeling unnecessary pain, mental and physical, just to 'not be mean' to someone she distrusts and dislikes?
    I raised my daughter to never be a doormat but with rights comes responsibility. She waited till she was married to have children. And she was real selective in her choice of a mate. They work as a team. They have had 4 children together and he was very much part of all their births. He was very much a part of all the poopy diapers throw up and feedings that followed too. I guess you could say I taught my daughter how to avoid mental stress in the choices she makes.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    -- if she thinks having him in the delivery room is stressful then how is she going to handle visitation of the child for the years to come? --
    For visitation/contact the mother doesn't even have to be there, she can have contact agreed through a third party or even at a contact centre. You should know by this point that she has no choice of whether to be at her birth or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'll have to be sure to remember this post the next time I am debating a military issue with someone who has never served.
    I served and I wouldn't use that as an argument for the right of a father to be at his child's birth. You can't equate the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Traumatize. LOL!
    Yeah, trauma - you've obviously never heard of trauma in childbirth I suppose which is why you can't see the problem with a hostile father being present at a child's birth

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Yeah, trauma - you've obviously never heard of trauma in childbirth I suppose which is why you can't see the problem with a hostile father being present at a child's birth
    If he's in there bossing her around, cussing her out, physically assaulting her, etc. I say throw him out. If he's there relatively quiet with a camcorder, equating that with trauma is just plain foolish.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I raised my daughter to never be a doormat but with rights comes responsibility. She waited till she was married to have children. And she was real selective in her choice of a mate. They work as a team. They have had 4 children together and he was very much part of all their births. He was very much a part of all the poopy diapers throw up and feedings that followed too. I guess you could say I taught my daughter how to avoid mental stress in the choices she makes.
    That's nice. It's not an answer to the question, and it's not even relevant, but it's nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I served and I wouldn't use that as an argument for the right of a father to be at his child's birth. You can't equate the two.
    you misunderstand. I am not comparing military service to child birth. I am condemning the idea of "if you haven't done it yourself, you can't talk about it".

    IF a woman can tell a man he has no right to talk about child birth because "he can only imagine it". Then a veteran can tell a non-vet that he/she has no right to talk about the military because they can only imagine it.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If he's in there bossing her around, cussing her out, physically assaulting her, etc. I say throw him out. If he's there relatively quiet with a camcorder, equating that with trauma is just plain foolish.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and just how is the father simply being in the room going to cause her any additional physical pain?
    I've explained that many times in the thread, as have others. Also, physical pain is not the only consideration.

    After all, he's not making *his* case based on physical pain she's causing him, is he?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    IOW, you are butthurt because someone disagrees with your hypothetical and you don't like it.... thanks for clearing that up.


    please explain how him being present during the birth could later be used as a weapon against her. what? during a custody hearing the guy is going to stand up and yell, "I saw your pussy while you were giving birth"? and just what would the point of that be?
    ???? Her pussy? She's bleeding, screaming, sometimes ****ting herself and often afraid.

    No woman should have to share that with someone she distrusts and dislikes....he can throw it in her face, metaphorically of course, anytime. No one wants to share that with someone they are not safe and intimate with.

    How disrespectful to ask that of a woman that doesnt wish to share it. Ugh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Laugh and use whatever hyperbole you want, but my opinion remains the same. Any woman that denies the father access to the delivery room is not much of a woman.
    Repeating it...again...doesnt make it so.

    But you can again if you like.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ah..no, I didn't. I was never taken to family court.
    Oh where ever it is where they do custody and child support.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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