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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Can we get any more melodramatic ? Jesus. Let's not forget her body was designed to do the deed. How many babies are born in the backseat of cab or car? How many like myself had the baby on a stretcher outside the damn delivery room for all passer bys to see? You want to talk about privacy? Every damn person around you at that point is a stranger.
    That is what I've been thinking every time someone mentions stress. Women have given birth to babies countless times through the ages in situations far more stressful than having the father in the room. Of all the hyperbole they could go with they decide to go with the stress angle.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's interesting. I challenge women on things they've said or done frequently, even on feminist issues, and not once has anyone accused me of being a woman hater. I think your underlying motives are coming thorough to the surface a wee bit more than you're aware.
    This place is not a proper litmus for the intellectual with regard to emotional appeal.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by lursa View Post
    so? The pain, the fear, the blood, the risks.....those are diminished? No they are not. No one chooses to give birth in the back of a cab.

    By design the woman goes thru hell. She is not obligated to 'share' that with someone she dislikes and distrusts. She'll never see those strangers again, most likely. She has to see someone she may consider an asshole and who may be an asshole that throws that in her face anytime he gets pissed off at her over child visitation.

    You choose to deny her this, but her mental and physical state and how those contribute to the birth of the baby are 1000x more important than his viewing pleasure.
    omg, ..........

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Oh please. There is no harm, no consequence for him. His choice could put their lives at risk.

    Her choice makes him disappointed and litigious.

    It's not remotely the same.
    I'm getting a real kick out of the "if he's there, she might DIE!" bullcrap.

    If you need any evidence of women being more emotional than rational...there you go.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is what I've been thinking every time someone mentions stress. Women have given birth to babies countless times through the ages in situations far more stressful than having the father in the room. Of all the hyperbole they could go with they decide to go with the stress angle.
    You mean like working in the field squat and drop? To read some of these comments you wonder how in the world did the human race ever survive before delivery rooms.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Oh please. There is no harm, no consequence for him. His choice could put their lives at risk.

    Her choice makes him disappointed and litigious.

    It's not remotely the same.
    If a woman denies access to the delivery room to the father of the child it's perfectly reasonable to say she isn't much of a woman.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What "military" issue would that be? That men cannot control themselves because they have to work with women in the military?
    any issue regarding the military. and, from what I've seen (you know, as someone who has actually been there. as opposed to someone who can only imagine it ) most of the times it is the females who can't control themselves.

    well over half of the disciplinary investigations I had to conduct during my last deployment were over two (or sometimes more) females who were fighting over some guy.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm getting a real kick out of the "if he's there, she might DIE!" bullcrap.

    If you need any evidence of women being more emotional than rational...there you go.
    Hey, he's the one going to court just to see the kid get born....please.

    The point is, it can increase the risk if she feels just as strongly about it as he does.

    And it is a supersensitive thing....I'm not giving fictional descriptions of how gross and painful delivery is....she has every right to not want to share that with someone she despises.

    He has no 'rights' here and the court agreed.

    I'm not even saying I agree with her...I'm just saying her claims are a Hell of a lot stronger than his.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    She has to see someone she may consider an asshole and who may BE an asshole that throws that in her face anytime he gets pissed off at her over child visitation.
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    well, maybe if she wasn't such a bitch about it and didn't keep ****ing with him over his visitiation rights or continually taking him to court to demand more child support, he wouldn't get pissed off about it and be an asshole.

    did you ever consider that?
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If a woman denies access to the delivery room to the father of the child it's perfectly reasonable to say she isn't much of a woman.
    LOLOLOLOL I just explained exactly why...to the exact same comment. What part wasnt crystal clear, besides the fact you just dont like it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    Oh please. There is no harm, no consequence for him. His choice could put their lives at risk.

    Her choice makes him disappointed and litigious.


    It's not remotely the same.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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