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  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

    1 1.49%
  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    38 56.72%
  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Since the topic asks the question about "rights" I believe that every human has a right to be present during the birth of their human offspring, including the father.
    what "right" is that?
    is it in the constitution?
    in a law?


    what right are you referring to that you think should violate the factual rights of the woman?

    no such right exists but you are free to feel it should even without any logical, legal or factual support.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Which sort of begs the question of how someone that smart can be that dumb? As Judge Judy would say, "YOU PICKED HIM LADY NOW DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!" (the shouting is Judge Judy, not me-- lol)
    That's too nonsensical to even be a sentence.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    So a colon is equal to a human being?
    Your debate style is not actually debate....instead you try to guide discussion away from anything you cannot deal with.

    I have dealt with this in the past, and feel the need to dismiss you as a waste of time.


    Goodbye.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The fact of the matter is that men have virturally no control at all. Men are generally made to feel that they have no rights when it comes to children. There are even some women who are now promoting the idea that men aren't even necessary for procreation itself. So let's not pretend that in the world of procreation that women are the victims because men are about to become the masters of the universe. It's not even remotely close to being true by a light year.
    Perhaps some men feel as if they have no rights when it comes to raising their children, but I personally believe that is the exception, not the rule. Children need both parents, although that doesn't always happen. Not all men feel any responsibility at all toward their children; most do, however.

    Raising children is different than giving birth to them. That is the mother's responsibility... completely. Sorry, but it's true. Until that baby is delivered, its health, well-being, and life itself is on mom. Sorry if that offends you, but that's basically nature's fault, not the fault of women.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Perhaps some men feel as if they have no rights when it comes to raising their children, but I personally believe that is the exception, not the rule. Children need both parents, although that doesn't always happen. Not all men feel any responsibility at all toward their children; most do, however.

    Raising children is different than giving birth to them. That is the mother's responsibility... completely. Sorry, but it's true. Until that baby is delivered, its health, well-being, and life itself is on mom. Sorry if that offends you, but that's basically nature's fault, not the fault of women.
    I've had kids and been part of it all the way (including the delivery room/OR), you can't offend me, sorry that offends you. But as long as the father can be held financially responsible for whatever the mother does, the situation is completely unequal. That's a fact, sorry that offends you.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The difference between your position and mine appears to be microscopic at best.
    I suspect it is the same actually at least on any important level.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    It's his child too!

    What the HELL......!?
    Did he carry it for 9 months? Is his life on the line? His privacy?

    Let's make it really FAIR.....he gets to be in the delivery room no matter what...if he has to suffer everything she does during pregnancy...how's that?

    Not fair, right? That's the thing about biology...it's not fair. Laws cant make it 'fair.' THat's not even the purpose of laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's nice to know that so many people here still believe in slavery.

    The baby isn't a person. It's a possession.

    It's not their baby. It's her baby.
    Nah, once it's born they are both stuck with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    We have these things called mirrors, you may have heard of them. As far as seeing her private parts, his already plowed that territory.
    That's almost like saying..."I already had sex with her, so now I can anytime I want." to legitimize rape.

    Does a woman have a right to her body and privacy or not?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Why would he not be able to see his own child? Unless he's some sort of criminal offender, he should have the right to see HIS child.
    Nobody said he couldnt see the kid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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