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  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

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  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

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  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No he didn't, he's not a doctor. He ruled on the law, and it was about privacy. They'd have to do an evaluation to prove that the husband in the room was causing mental/physical suffering.
    And I think the law is wrong and it should be as I stated. If I were king for a day I would make it so

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, let's just say, purely for the sake of argument, that women are preventing fathers by the tens of thousands from being allowed into the delivery room, and not this one isolated case that's causing certain people to flip the ever loving hell out. The problem is, is there really the time, manpower and resources to do a mental and medical evaluation for every woman about to go into labor in order to determine if the father being present would be a cause for concern? Privacy laws are much tidier and, in my opinion much less dehumanizing than being forced to argue that someone shouldn't be in the delivery room with them. Personally, if I were about to undergo surgery, I wouldn't want to have to defend my claims that my exgirlfriend shouldn't be in the operating room with me because she makes me uncomfortable. Why should her insistence on being there suddenly be my problem?
    The evaluation would be "do you want this person here?" If she didn't it can be assumed that letting him would cause her distress. No need to make it complicated.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Absolutely true, and I hope that kid knows what a great father they're going to have.

    Wish I could say the same for the mom.
    The whole story is really sad. It appears to me the guy was really looking forward to being a father and had already fallen in love with the child before it was born and wanted to be there from the very beginning even if it took a court order. Yes, here's hoping the child gets to know its dad. But considering the mother's reaction, I wouldn't put money on it. She had to know how much being at the birth meant to him and if that was an "issue" for her, cripe sakes how is she going to be able to handle visitation?
    Last edited by vesper; 03-17-14 at 02:38 PM.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree, that in some cases, there is a bias.

    However, as many have pointed out, I believe that is starting to change. Change doesn't occur overnight, and as we discussed earlier, there were reasons for such bias back in the "olden days." Usually the moms stayed home with the kids and the dads worked. Now that family dynamics are changing, so are the results of custody battles.

    Of course we will always have those more "traditional" type judges that believe the child belongs with the mother no matter what, but I know of several men who have full custody of their children, and statistics also show a change.
    It's a lot better than it was 30 to 40 years ago, so we have improved some, but there's still the bias out there.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    And I think the law is wrong and it should be as I stated. If I were king for a day I would make it so
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Birth~ The patient is exposed (both physically and emotionally), while undergoing a very personal and delicate medical procedure, and thus must be allowed the right of privacy.

    Colonoscopy~ The patient is exposed (both physically and emotionally), while undergoing a very personal and delicate medical procedure, and thus must be allowed the right of privacy.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    The evaluation would be "do you want this person here?" If she didn't it can be assumed that letting him would cause her distress. No need to make it complicated.
    The difference between your position and mine appears to be microscopic at best.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Since the topic asks the question about "rights" I believe that every human has a right to be present during the birth of their human offspring, including the father.

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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Then you're not good with privacy laws, because those laws are what gave her the right to block him from the room.
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    Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The mom would absolutely be better for the child. She is, after all, college educated with a Masters, magna cum laude and has a six figure paying job, while the father has gambling debts and drug addiction. Sorry, it's no contest.
    Which sort of begs the question of how someone that smart can be that dumb? As Judge Judy would say, "YOU PICKED HIM LADY NOW DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!" (the shouting is Judge Judy, not me-- lol)

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