Yes, the U.S. should
No, the U.S. shouldn't
I understand your messages are that of a Stalinist, so am surprised you didn't claim that ethnic Russians (since you also adamantly believe is division of people on ethnicity) were 95% of the population of Crimea, like you claim that was the actual vote total.
Because, other than Russian state propaganda, there is no evidence to suggest that Russia allowed qualified observers.In your astute observations, MadLib...did you happen to notice if Wiseman provided any evidence to support his claim that Russia wouldn't allow any "outside observers" in Crimea?
'Themselves" is the qualifying word in that statement. You'll get no argument from me that the Crimean regional government is Putin's puppet, but that's still Crimea inviting them, not Russia.And I pointed out that they did and I was right.
Same difference. Either way, that does not count as a legitimate invitation.No, as Wiseman's link pointed out, it was Crimea that didn't have the authority to invite them to observe. Geezus, you don't even know what the issue is and yet here you are pretending to be the grand jury. Perhaps you should've just let well enough alone, Madlib.
It's obvious that he didn't mean any random idiot who could be invited to join and it would count as an "outside observer."Wiseone first said that Russia wouldn't allow ANY outside observers in Crimea and that is what I responded to. He didn't quantify that they had to be "professional' or "qualified" until well after he put his foot in his mouth.
Since when did EU political parties have the qualifications to observe an election, especially one that takes place outside of the Eurozone?He also just assumed the EU far right nationalist parties weren't qualified to be election observers when in fact political parties often do have their own observers and the ones that Putin asked are recognized by the EU as a legitmate political party with all the qualifications neccessary to observe an election just as any other recognized political party would. [/B]
The Russians invited outside observers to monitor the Crimea election.....
NBC: "....There are 135 independent observers from 23 countries in Crimea to monitor the referendum vote scheduled for Sunday, in which citizens will decide whether to join Russia or remain an autonomous region in Ukraine.....
Referendum Monitor Criticizes U.S. Involvement in Crimea - NBC News
Reuters: Mar. 15 - International monitors invited by Russia arrive in Crimea to observe Sunday's referendum to join Russia. Sarah Toms reports...
International observers arrive for Crimea referendum | Video | Reuters.com
EuroNews: "...Russia and Crimea’s pro-Russian parliament have both backed election monitors but the OSCE does not plan to send any, judging Sunday’s referendum illegal...."
Just thought you should know.
Last edited by Moot; 03-19-14 at 07:45 PM.