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CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

Is Russia a threat to the USofA


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When I was a kid, we use to have atomic bomb drills every so often where we'd duck and cover under our desks. That was because of the threat from Russia. (USSR)

You must be old as hell, because I never had one. :mrgreen:
 
Don't know what you expect. The U.S. depends on the international order, and Russia has acted out against that order twice now.

What do you mean by "international order?"

How do you depend on "international order?"
 
I see Russia as the poor, rotten bully on the street corner, nobody likes but doesn't screw with, because he doesn't have as much to lose and he's angry for not being popular.

My impressions exactly!
 
CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S. – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


Are we really such ******s? Why are we so friggin scared of everybody and their brother?

Is Russia our enemy?

Is Russia a real threat?

Or are people just panty-waists that have been brainwashed into fearing everything?

They must be. Look how close they put their country to our military bases. *wink*

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Russia is always the 'big bad' in our news, same with China. It's because the U.S. can't really touch them in any way, or influence them. They are a threat to U.S. manifest destiny and the new world order of neo-liberals and globalists. They routinely give the UN and the U.S. the finger, and there is absolutely nothing the U.S. can do about it, aside from broadcast brainwashing non-sense to their people and issue scary threats. The reality is that they are likely to be the next seat of civilization, because western Europe and the U.S. are losing their grip.

Unless the EU joins in more willing countries and becomes a nation I think more loss of grip may come.
 
The bottom line here seems to be that the USofA always needs a boogieman.

And any boogieman will do.

The bigger the better.

As long as this conflict play remains healthy there is nothing wrong with it. The more people die the less healthy it becomes though!
 
Russian people I have met through my mom's side are interesting. A lot of the people there aren't as well educated as the rest of Europe, and the more east you go, the more its like traveling back in time.

Exactly.

One goes back in time all the way to middle ages. When Russians took our Orthodox Christianity religion from the Byzantine Empire and used it to either assimilate the rest of the population into Slavs or kill/dislocate them. Best times of their lives really. Cannot blame them for wanting to relive medieval times again and again for it serves their benefits.

Good thing they cannot though. Otherwise people would be dislocated from their native lands in Europe just like Tatars will in Crimea.
 
So what though? Do you honestly think Russia would start a nuclear war with the USofA???????

That would destroy the entire world almost instantly. Russia would be incinerated, and turned into an unlivable wasteland for thousands of years.

Why would they START something like that knowing what the end result would be?

Err, I do not know: Cause they are illogical and backward thinkers maybe?
 
You know what our High School policy was during a nuke attack? Walk south along the railroad tracks. When I asked why, they said we don't know.

Basically, I took it as "you're screwed, so we'll give you something to keep your mind occupied."

One of those sentences where I do not know whether to laugh or be baffled really!
 
No. The taking of a huge piece of Ukraine and it's trillion plus in oil, gas and resources making Ukraine permanent beggars of Russia now - after Ukraine gave up the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world for promise from Russia, the USA, UK and other countries their border would be secure means there is no possible deal or treaty to make to any country for nuclear non-proliferation - as all such deals and treaties are 100% worthless.

There is a new rule clearly established. If you do not want your country overrun by a nuclear super power, get nuclear weapons FAST! Lots of them. Anyway possible. Consider anything any super power tells you to be a lie and trick.

That is what the lesson of Crimea is. Get nuclear weapons. Keep them. Get more.

Crimea makes Iran nuclear talks a bit awkward - CSMonitor.com
 
Economics and military industrial complex go hand-in-hand for the top bad ass countries. Economics slump...at the very least create tension between major players...then escalate it to the point of of the appearance of world destruction...then a huge peace keeping summit emerges. Meanwhile the production of military weapons, etc go sky high, lots of folks go back to work, governments print a lot more phony money...yadda, yadda, yadda....and the circle jerk continues on and on and on and on.

This is the healthy play.

In a sense where one country is the victor over the other? Yes. However there would be a high body count and massive environmental destruction..

This one is not.
 
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For years I've been volunteering at least 10 hours a month helping to teach residents computers, at a local nursing home. One of the things I keep hearing about from them is about Communism and the Soviet Union. Out of respect, I do not argue or with or try correct them. (ex - Soviet Union is now the Russian Federation) On the flip side, I have three daughters (one is 1st year college, the other two in primary and middle school) whom never mention Russia or communism, if I can accidentally catch them talking about politics or history. Among those in my age bracket (32ish) I only hear about the dreaded communists from my right-wing friends.

Having said all of this, I only hear about a supposed Russian threat to the US, online and primarily from the over 45 right-wing group. My suspicion is that those who see Russia as a perceived military threat are still living in the "Cold War" era.

First check out the actual poll here - http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/03/14/cnn.orc.poll.russia.pdf

Image 1 shows that the uptick in the concern of a Russian threat is correlated to the Crimea issue. This tells me it's a knee-jerk reaction to current affairs. Note; Iran and North Korea are also seen as "less" of a threat.

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Image 2 shows the age demographics as far as a Russian threat
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My Opinion - Age makes all the difference.
 
You must be old as hell, because I never had one. :mrgreen:

I grew up within ear-shot of the artillery at Ft. Hood TX in the 60s. That could of had something to do with it.

We were a prime strategic target.
 
I grew up within ear-shot of the artillery at Ft. Hood TX in the 60s. That could of had something to do with it.

We were a prime strategic target.

We did it in Delaware in late 60's early 70's.

Home of DuPont, and being in middle of Bos-Wash megalopolis corridor.....
 
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For years I've been volunteering at least 10 hours a month helping to teach residents computers, at a local nursing home. One of the things I keep hearing about from them is about Communism and the Soviet Union. Out of respect, I do not argue or with or try correct them. (ex - Soviet Union is now the Russian Federation) On the flip side, I have three daughters (one is 1st year college, the other two in primary and middle school) whom never mention Russia or communism, if I can accidentally catch them talking about politics or history. Among those in my age bracket (32ish) I only hear about the dreaded communists from my right-wing friends.

Having said all of this, I only hear about a supposed Russian threat to the US, online and primarily from the over 45 right-wing group. My suspicion is that those who see Russia as a perceived military threat are still living in the "Cold War" era.

First check out the actual poll here - http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/03/14/cnn.orc.poll.russia.pdf

Image 1 shows that the uptick in the concern of a Russian threat is correlated to the Crimea issue. This tells me it's a knee-jerk reaction to current affairs. Note; Iran and North Korea are also seen as "less" of a threat.

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Image 2 shows the age demographics as far as a Russian threat
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My Opinion - Age makes all the difference.

History is repeated because each generation has to throw off the "foolishness" of the previous generations :roll: so they can promote their own agenda; because of course they know everything. :2razz:
 
We did it in Delaware in late 60's early 70's.

Home of DuPont, and being in middle of Bos-Wash megalopolis corridor.....

We also had tornado drills which in retrospect seemed nearly the same. ;)
 
One of those sentences where I do not know whether to laugh or be baffled really!

Well, south was away from the Naval bases where the nukes would probably be landing, so there may have been some reasoning to it unknown by the teachers. But in truth, those ICBM's coming from the USSR back then would've been massive.
 
We also had tornado drills which in retrospect seemed nearly the same. ;)

Had a nuke blew within explosion range or tornado hit a public school in the 60s, the results would have been the same. I thought that they were just teaching us how to kiss our ass goodbye.
 
Had a nuke blew within explosion range or tornado hit a public school in the 60s, the results would have been the same. I thought that they were just teaching us how to kiss our ass goodbye.

It did seem that way but, I suspect flying glass and other building material were the culprits in mind.
 
Win???

Do you honestly think there'd be a "winner" in a US-Russia war?

Yes. Neither side can use nuclear weapons as it is self-suicide. The only functional use of the weapons is to assure the other can not use them.

The conquest and occupation of Russia itself is a different question as that is the nuclear threshold. Otherwise, we could war against Russia anywhere else we want to. They can no more use their nuclear weapons than we can.

A simple call to Putin AND other leaders is Russia (Putin is NOT a stand-alone total power in Russia like Stalin was) stating we will not violate Russia borders - but do not count Crimea as it is still UN and USA recognized as Ukraine - and also by the Treaty Russia and the USA have with Ukraine - and that we will not used nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction. But otherwise we are going to attack any and all Russian troops in Crimea?

Putin would go crying to the U.N. If he tried to use nuclear weapons he would likely just be killed by Russian powerhouses. Other than invading each other's countries, we can kill all the Russians we want to try to kill and they can kill all the Americans they want to try to.

I don't urge that course, but we could. What I urge is we put USA troops in Ukraine. Then it would be Putin's decision to go to war against the USA or not. However, Obama has now official given all of Ukraine to Russia.
 
History is repeated because each generation has to throw off the "foolishness" of the previous generations :roll: so they can promote their own agenda; because of course they know everything. :2razz:

Those most concerned are of the WWII generation. They actually understand what true war is and how Russia fights it and treats people in general. The USA has not been a "war" since, only limited "police actions."
 
It did seem that way but, I suspect flying glass and other building material were the culprits in mind.

At that time, probably. Even as kids we all suspected that an atomic bomb was bad, but in hindsight, we didn't have near the information at hand as we do today.

Given what most people know today...the profound damage caused by "relatively small atomic weapon", a couple of miles or so away from the point of detonation would probably, at the very least, do some serious cremation to everything in the blast range. And I guess that close enough to detonation that the blast would actually evaporate people, places and things.

Again, despite the fear that existed in those days about atomic bombs, I seriously don't recall that kind of devastation hitting home in the minds of most people...especially kids.

I think the reality hit home with me when I was a kid and saw a movie with Mickey Rooney called "The Atomic Kid".

I happen to watch a bit of the destruction of a half-mile wide tornado that came within 2 blocks of our home (in Dallas). I can't remember how many miles that it ran its course. My grandmother finally grabbed me off the front porch, wrapped me in a blanket, put me in our clawfoot bathtub. Our windows were shattered, debris made its way inside our house. And significant size debris was scattered in our yard, along with everybody else's yards along the path. It took us weeks to clean up after that incident and we weren't directly hit. Buildings that were dead in the path of that tornado, and which were similar to school structures at that time, were leveled. I still get a quiver from time to time thinking about that day.

EVERYBODY TODAY knows what the consequences can potentially be. But really, I don't think we really know what atomic weapons are capable of in present time. They can probably make an atomic weapon the size of an iPad that can do the damage done to Japan during WWII. Who knows? All governments lie so much.
 
Yeah, I'm old school. Russia's threat to the US has been increasing under Putin, and anyone who doesn't believe Russia is a threat to the US now should simply listen to Putin's own words.

Putin knows what he wants. If the US or anyone else gets in the way of what he wants, he will run roughshod right over them or die trying.

So yeah, Russia is a threat.
 
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