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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Had a nuke blew within explosion range or tornado hit a public school in the 60s, the results would have been the same. I thought that they were just teaching us how to kiss our ass goodbye.
    It did seem that way but, I suspect flying glass and other building material were the culprits in mind.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Win???

    Do you honestly think there'd be a "winner" in a US-Russia war?
    Yes. Neither side can use nuclear weapons as it is self-suicide. The only functional use of the weapons is to assure the other can not use them.

    The conquest and occupation of Russia itself is a different question as that is the nuclear threshold. Otherwise, we could war against Russia anywhere else we want to. They can no more use their nuclear weapons than we can.

    A simple call to Putin AND other leaders is Russia (Putin is NOT a stand-alone total power in Russia like Stalin was) stating we will not violate Russia borders - but do not count Crimea as it is still UN and USA recognized as Ukraine - and also by the Treaty Russia and the USA have with Ukraine - and that we will not used nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction. But otherwise we are going to attack any and all Russian troops in Crimea?

    Putin would go crying to the U.N. If he tried to use nuclear weapons he would likely just be killed by Russian powerhouses. Other than invading each other's countries, we can kill all the Russians we want to try to kill and they can kill all the Americans they want to try to.

    I don't urge that course, but we could. What I urge is we put USA troops in Ukraine. Then it would be Putin's decision to go to war against the USA or not. However, Obama has now official given all of Ukraine to Russia.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    History is repeated because each generation has to throw off the "foolishness" of the previous generations so they can promote their own agenda; because of course they know everything.
    Those most concerned are of the WWII generation. They actually understand what true war is and how Russia fights it and treats people in general. The USA has not been a "war" since, only limited "police actions."

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It did seem that way but, I suspect flying glass and other building material were the culprits in mind.
    At that time, probably. Even as kids we all suspected that an atomic bomb was bad, but in hindsight, we didn't have near the information at hand as we do today.

    Given what most people know today...the profound damage caused by "relatively small atomic weapon", a couple of miles or so away from the point of detonation would probably, at the very least, do some serious cremation to everything in the blast range. And I guess that close enough to detonation that the blast would actually evaporate people, places and things.

    Again, despite the fear that existed in those days about atomic bombs, I seriously don't recall that kind of devastation hitting home in the minds of most people...especially kids.

    I think the reality hit home with me when I was a kid and saw a movie with Mickey Rooney called "The Atomic Kid".

    I happen to watch a bit of the destruction of a half-mile wide tornado that came within 2 blocks of our home (in Dallas). I can't remember how many miles that it ran its course. My grandmother finally grabbed me off the front porch, wrapped me in a blanket, put me in our clawfoot bathtub. Our windows were shattered, debris made its way inside our house. And significant size debris was scattered in our yard, along with everybody else's yards along the path. It took us weeks to clean up after that incident and we weren't directly hit. Buildings that were dead in the path of that tornado, and which were similar to school structures at that time, were leveled. I still get a quiver from time to time thinking about that day.

    EVERYBODY TODAY knows what the consequences can potentially be. But really, I don't think we really know what atomic weapons are capable of in present time. They can probably make an atomic weapon the size of an iPad that can do the damage done to Japan during WWII. Who knows? All governments lie so much.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Yeah, I'm old school. Russia's threat to the US has been increasing under Putin, and anyone who doesn't believe Russia is a threat to the US now should simply listen to Putin's own words.

    Putin knows what he wants. If the US or anyone else gets in the way of what he wants, he will run roughshod right over them or die trying.

    So yeah, Russia is a threat.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted not really in the sense that if we went to war against Russia we would win.But if did go to war against Russia it would cost us lots of lives and money.
    I'm not sure I could "live" with your sense of "winning" a war with Russia. I think its a war not worth "winning". Mankind loses a war with Russia. Declaring a "winner" is moot as would worrying about the money.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I'm not sure I could "live" with your sense of "winning" a war with Russia. I think its a war not worth "winning". Mankind loses a war with Russia. Declaring a "winner" is moot as would worrying about the money.
    ^ "Run! Run! Hide! Hide!"

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ^ "Run! Run! Hide! Hide!"
    The idea of war with Russia is nothing less than insanity... No need to run nor hide as either are useless. Then again, I believe humanity will ultimately self-destruct; its just a matter of time. I read Revelations and it reads like a vivid description of nuclear holocaust.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I'm not sure I could "live" with your sense of "winning" a war with Russia. I think its a war not worth "winning". Mankind loses a war with Russia. Declaring a "winner" is moot as would worrying about the money.
    Winner is whoever doesn't give up. Wars can sometimes be more costly to the victor than the loser. World War 2 for example cost us nearly 50 million people their lives and almost 40 million of those lives lost were on the allied side while only nearly 10 million of those were on the Axis side.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Most see Russia as a threat to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Yeah, I'm old school. Russia's threat to the US has been increasing under Putin, and anyone who doesn't believe Russia is a threat to the US now should simply listen to Putin's own words.

    Putin knows what he wants. If the US or anyone else gets in the way of what he wants, he will run roughshod right over them or die trying.

    So yeah, Russia is a threat.
    So based on the last 100 years - would it be reasonable for other countries to view the USofA as a "threat"?

    Isn't Russia doing exactly what the USofA does?

    Which would be pretty much whatever we damn well please regardless of what the rest of the world thinks or wants?

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