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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Here's a quick little marijuana benefits story:

    A few days ago I woke up and was feeling HORRIBLE. I started throwing up uncontrollably every 30 minutes like clockwork, after about 5 cycles of this, I decided to light up, because I had heard how much it helps with leukemia patients throwing up. I IMMEDIATELY felt better and was able to eat and drink. My vomitting reduced itself to once every 4 hours instead of once every half hour. That extra time allowed me to get badly needed rehydration and eased my suffering tremendously.

    Now, why would ANYBODY want to deny someone an insanely effective medicine? Why should I have just suffered and had one of the worst days of my life instead of taking a little medication and feeling better?
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Keep it illegal, there is no rational reason to bring a schedule I substance down to OTC for the purpose of abusing it to get high. We need more substance restriction, not less. We have a public health crisis, allowing for the legal use of marijuana to get a high will likely only make things worse. We already have alcohol and tobacco and that's bad enough.
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Keep it illegal, there is no rational reason to bring a schedule I substance down to OTC for the purpose of abusing it to get high. We need more substance restriction, not less. We have a public health crisis, allowing for the legal use of marijuana to get a high will likely only make things worse. We already have alcohol and tobacco and that's bad enough.
    So there's a great question, do you really think it should be a schedule one substance? Do you really think there's ZERO medical benefits whatsoever?

    What about in post #11 where I describe my experience? What about Leukemia patients who get massive relief from it? Seizuring children? Glaucoma? PTSD? All bull****?


    Marijuana stops child's severe seizures - CNN.com

    The little girl in the picture has Dravet Syndrome. She has hundreds of seizures a week without cannabis oil. With it she has 1-2 a week. Can you honestly sit there and tell me you would have the gumption to look this little girl in the face and say "Hey, I'm sorry, but your medicine doesn't actually work, so I'm going to take it from you."

    She literally would've died by now without it, and it was the very last medication they tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So there's a great question, do you really think it should be a schedule one substance? Do you really think there's ZERO medical benefits whatsoever?

    What about in post #11 where I describe my experience? What about Leukemia patients who get massive relief from it? Seizuring children? Glaucoma? PTSD? All bull****?


    Marijuana stops child's severe seizures - CNN.com

    The little girl in the picture has Dravet Syndrome. She has hundreds of seizures a week without cannabis oil. With it she has 1-2 a week. Can you honestly sit there and tell me you would have the gumption to look this little girl in the face and say "Hey, I'm sorry, but your medicine doesn't actually work, so I'm going to take it from you."

    She literally would've died by now without it, and it was the very last medication they tried.
    Re-read what I posted. I specifically said OTC.

    For the record, we do have "medical marijuana" in the form of THC as Marinol being a prescribed medication. There is a difference between providing a drug for medical care and making a drug OTC for the purpose of being abused (with it not being a treatment for something but existing as an agent to get high). If you are arguing for the legalization of cannabis as a plant for medical use that's one thing. But decriminalizing it and making it OTC is another.
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Re-read what I posted. I specifically said OTC.

    For the record, we do have "medical marijuana" in the form of THC as Marinol being a prescribed medication. There is a difference between providing a drug for medical care and making a drug OTC for the purpose of being abused (with it not being a treatment for something but existing as an agent to get high). If you are arguing for the legalization of cannabis as a plant for medical use that's one thing. But decriminalizing it and making it OTC is another.
    Marinol has massive side effects that natural cannabis does not. Even if we discount that, why should something in a natural form be illegal while the allegedly same chemicals produced in a lab by a company should be legal? Do you not see that the only reason for that is to protect corporate interests?

    Secondly, so you're saying that someone who's taking a prescription to alleviate pain is perfectly fine, but someone who is taking the same exact thing with no pain should be locked in a cage? If I take prescription Prilosec for heartburn after a spicy meal, that's ok, but if I take it when I don't have heartburn I should be in jail? How can you justify a qualifier like that?

    And lastly, don't act for a ****ing second like you haven't been vocally opposed to medical marijuana on here before.
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    I'll go ahead and toss in that not just all drugs, but all "vice" crime as well, to include prostitution and gambling. By keeping them illegal, we maximize the profits of criminals, and yield only negatives.

    If made legal, new industries, and new avenues for tax revenue open up, and police resources are freed to focus on more serious crime.

    There is no realistic way to control these behaviors, regardless.

    I'd support a minimum age limit for purchase, but we have more important issue that we need these limited resources for.

    If we can't solve more than a fraction of murders, why are we focusing on vice?

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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Marinol has MASSIVE side effects that natural cannabis does not. Even if we discount that, why should something in a natural form be illegal while the allegedly same chemicals produced in a lab by a company should be legal? Do you not see that the only reason for that is to protect corporate interests?

    Secondly, so you're saying that someone who's taking a prescription to alleviate pain is perfectly fine, but someone who is taking the same exact thing with no pain should be locked in a cage? If I take prescription Prilosec for heartburn after a spicy meal, that's ok, but if I take it when I don't have heartburn I should be in jail? How can you justify a qualifier like that?
    List those side effects using a medical source and a paper contrasting them to cannabis.

    Natural =/= best or even good. Does having it made in a lab make it bad? THC may be therapeutic, marinol is essentially synthetic THC to be delivered in a specific dosage form to treat illness.

    And yes, someone taking a prescription pain reliever is doing so as treatment under supervision of a healthcare provider. Someone who is using it illicitly for a high is abusing the medication. There is a reason why we have our medical model in place and why patients cannot legally self treat. You aren't entitled to go to a pharmacy and just buy the medications for blood pressure, insomnia, cholesterol, or anything else you might want. The state deems that as a public health issue and that such conditions need to be diagnosed and therapy planned in accordance with healthcare providers. You are making straw man arguments by comparing scheduled narcotics for pain with OTC heartburn meds that aren't commonly abused or produce a high. The qualifier is that abusing drugs is illegal as it is a harm to society and public health. Certain medications are also only allowed to be accessed via a prescription and dispensed by a pharmacy. They aren't all equal.
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Marijuana is not harmful for adults, no reason for it to be illegal.

    It has medical benefits and provides a good high. There is nothing wrong with wanting to get high to relax. No way we should put people in a cage for that.
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    Re: Marijuana: Legalize or Ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And yes, someone taking a prescription pain reliever is doing so as treatment under supervision of a healthcare provider. Someone who is using it illicitly for a high is abusing the medication. There is a reason why we have our medical model in place and why patients cannot legally self treat.
    And that reason is what?

    Why is it the concern of the state if I kill myself taking any sort of drug?

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