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    News source tribalism

    Ever since I got slammed for a post I made elsewhere, I have been particularly cautious about what source I'm using when providing documentation for comments I make. No matter how truthful something may be, for many political hacks simply being reported by a media source they've classified as on the opposition's team, the validity of the documentation must be outright rejected for no other reason than their seeing the source as coming from their opposition.

    Are you careful to use neutral sources to document your positions? Are you likely to dismiss claims if you perceive the source to be on your opposition's team? What media sources do you consider neutral?
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    Re: News source tribalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Ever since I got slammed for a post I made elsewhere, I have been particularly cautious about what source I'm using when providing documentation for comments I make. No matter how truthful something may be, for many political hacks simply being reported by a media source they've classified as on the opposition's team, the validity of the documentation must be outright rejected for no other reason than their seeing the source as coming from their opposition.

    Are you careful to use neutral sources to document your positions? Are you likely to dismiss claims if you perceive the source to be on your opposition's team? What media sources do you consider neutral?
    I do pay some attention to my sources. For instance, if I'm looking to start a thread from a story I saw on The Blaze, I wouldn't use that source. I'd find it in mainstream. And if I can't find it there? It's probably a bunch of baloney.

    I consider Fox News to be mainstream. Unless it's an editorial, anyone calling a poster for a Fox News story is a bean head.

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    If I'm looking for facts on abortion, I won't be using Planned Parenthood's sight. That'd be another example.

    So yes, I do pay attention to my source.

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    Re: News source tribalism

    Editorials, very much so. Direct quotes I will more tend to believe unless just some blog by someone.

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    Re: News source tribalism

    I always am aware of the point of origin. MSNBC, Newsmax, HuffPo, moveon, Blaze, etc. have all shown me how not to view subjects.

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    Re: News source tribalism

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I do pay some attention to my sources. For instance, if I'm looking to start a thread from a story I saw on The Blaze, I wouldn't use that source. I'd find it in mainstream. And if I can't find it there? It's probably a bunch of baloney.

    I consider Fox News to be mainstream. Unless it's an editorial, anyone calling a poster for a Fox News story is a bean head.

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    If I'm looking for facts on abortion, I won't be using Planned Parenthood's sight. That'd be another example.

    So yes, I do pay attention to my source.
    Don't you just hate it when you do a search and it's biased because you didn't word it properly.
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    Re: News source tribalism

    I was just talking to a friend who says someone he had a conversation with completely rejected a claim solely because the source wasn't a part of his ideological tribe. I think a lot of people are simply more committed to their side than they are the truth.
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    Re: News source tribalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Ever since I got slammed for a post I made elsewhere, I have been particularly cautious about what source I'm using when providing documentation for comments I make. No matter how truthful something may be, for many political hacks simply being reported by a media source they've classified as on the opposition's team, the validity of the documentation must be outright rejected for no other reason than their seeing the source as coming from their opposition.

    Are you careful to use neutral sources to document your positions? Are you likely to dismiss claims if you perceive the source to be on your opposition's team? What media sources do you consider neutral?
    Actually, it's even worse than that. For example, in a recent post I made I used an author who wrote a book --- my use of that author who, unbeknownst to me, contributed to World Net Daily (and not even recently), was thrown out for a book discussion video he made on C-SPAN. So just by association that this author wrote for a source they don't agree with the hacks swooped in and simply reject anything the guy says because he contributes to WND.
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    Re: News source tribalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Ever since I got slammed for a post I made elsewhere, I have been particularly cautious about what source I'm using when providing documentation for comments I make. No matter how truthful something may be, for many political hacks simply being reported by a media source they've classified as on the opposition's team, the validity of the documentation must be outright rejected for no other reason than their seeing the source as coming from their opposition.

    Are you careful to use neutral sources to document your positions? Are you likely to dismiss claims if you perceive the source to be on your opposition's team? What media sources do you consider neutral?
    Is there such a thing as neutral source when it comes to politics? I think not. On cable MSNBC is definitely in the hands of the DNC, CNN is left of center and FOX right of center. Okay, when FOX starts their talk shows they too are in the hands of the RNC. But their daytime news is right of center. On the over the air networks, NBC, CBS, ABC all tilt left but are careful not to be overly overt about it. Radio and the internet, god help us.

    Perhaps the way to tell how biased a network is, is to watch what stories they cover or air vs. which ones they do not or just give a few seconds to. One other thing I always listen for is if the network will give the party of a congressman or senator if they are caught doing something wrong. Almost all networks except fox will just give the name of a Democrat with out mention his party. I.E. Congressman Joe Blow was caught......but if it is a Republican you can count on all the networks to include that. I.E. Republican Congressman Joe Blow was caught.....

    But let me finish up, just because something is reported on a certain network does not make it false. One should check into these things. I usually do, but sometimes I don't and those sometimes are usually when I get caught with my pants down.
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    Re: News source tribalism

    I approach any topic with caution when I see it reported by HuffPo, FOXNews, MSNBC, NewsMax, The Blaze, MoveOn, and other biased agenda driven outlets.

    I too, look to validate it from other sites before putting too much stock in it.

    But just because FOXNews or MSNBC says 2+2=4, I do not automatically write them off. Facts are facts regardless of the messenger. But I like to dig a bit deeper when considering what I accept to be "facts." There are many here on this site that would dismiss the FACT that 2+2=4 simply because MSNBC or FOXNews said so. I am not one of them.

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    Re: News source tribalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I was just talking to a friend who says someone he had a conversation with completely rejected a claim solely because the source wasn't a part of his ideological tribe. I think a lot of people are simply more committed to their side than they are the truth.
    You have that happen all the time. I seen it here on DP. There are a lot of Democrats who only believe what MSNBC says and nothing of FOX. Of course the reverse is true when talking about our Republican Friends, FOX they believe 100%, MSNBC 0%.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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