View Poll Results: What do you think of E-Cigs

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  • They're a public nuisance.

    4 11.43%
  • They should be outlawed.

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  • They should be regulated heavier.

    5 14.29%
  • E-cig's, no big deal.

    22 62.86%
  • Only for tobacco replacement.

    1 2.86%
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Thread: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I am not a hater, if people want to vape, I could care less. I think you are just reading articles that mold to your beliefs and your beliefs are largely effected and exaggurated by the ones that don't.
    You are mistaken. As someone who tried to quit smoking several times, and who was acutely aware of the damage I was doing to myself by failing to quit, I was highly suspicious of vaporizers and wanted to learn as much about them as I could. I didn't switch and then find a bunch of literature to justify my choice. I switched in part because of the research I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I suspect you believe that people are trying to take away something you enjoy doing, and your reaction to it is to backlash against it.
    I do not suspect, I know. Municipalities are heavily restricting the use of vaporizers, and a lot of people are having knee-jerk reactions to them.

    As for enjoy, I don't, not really. Yeah, my juice is tasty, but that's because I wouldn't be able to stand it if there wasn't something pleasurable about it. As best I can tell, I got my buzz off the CO and the various thousands of evil **** chemicals in cigarettes, because all getting a shot of nicotine does is quiet the monkey on my back. I imagine this is what switching from heroin to methadone feels like.

    I'm okay with that, by the way, it was just a little disappointing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I would be very interested in an article that states that nicotine has absolutely no effect on the human body and is completely benign. I would hold such articles very suspicious because I do not know any known chemicals that have absolutely no effect on the human body if over consumed.
    I never said I had read articles that told me that nicotine has absolutely no effect on the human body and is completely benign. I said that I never once saw anything about there being a cancer risk with nicotine and that I wasn't going to take your word for it.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    They are less harmfull then cigarettes when comparing similar levels of nicotine absorbed into the body. However, I think it is important that we do not encourage people that vaping is completely harmless. Nicotine still has long term health effects. As a way to quit smoking, it is great! But I think many companies are now promoting it as an alternative to smoking rather than a cure. The false idea being thrown around that it is harmless may encourage people to ingest even more nicotine then they would if they were a smoker. Someone ingesting large amounts of nicotine have a good probablility of having health issues later on. Large amounts of nicotine ingested by someone can cause cancer in some people. This needs to be known and people need to be educated on the effects of nicotine on the body.
    Nicotine is a highly addictive stimulant not unlike caffeine. Like all stimulants it has health risks but it has never been shown to cause cancer. I am hooked on my cup of coffee every morning and probably will never give it up. I feel the same about my e-cig. Nicotine is a nasty addiction that sticks with you for years after you quit. I'm sorry I got hooked but I don't think the grief of quitting is worth it.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Unless you know something I don't know, LMR, there aren't any stockyards anymore. Used to be though.
    I did not know that, I heard that the beef business was as big as ever on the outskirts. I know there are a couple of really good meat sellers still in the city. Wish I could remember some names but I have seen a few of their cuts and it had me wanting to put in some orders.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    They are no big deal. Water vapor with a variety of flavors. Much less dangerous than real cigs, and they don't smell bad. Some of them actually have a pleasant pipe tobacco smell.
    Not water, it's nicotine suspended in a glycerol base with a number of chemicals involved. Probably not great for you, but almost certainly better than cigarette smoke, which is a known evil.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not water, it's nicotine suspended in a glycerol base with a number of chemicals involved. Probably not great for you, but almost certainly better than cigarette smoke, which is a known evil.
    Actually, there are some rigs that use a water base. I keep hearing one advertised on the radio in my area as a free offer.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Actually, there are some rigs that use a water base. I keep hearing one advertised on the radio in my area as a free offer.
    They call that one a "bong."

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    smoked since I was 16 now I am 58 I thought I could not quit.. but e cigs did it for me.. an e cig is vegetable oil and flavoring and nicotine if you want it in it... it is a steam not a smoke ..steam wont kill you smoke will... I don't smoke regular cigs anymore and this tricks my body into thinking I am smoking... this is the best way to stop smoking and 80% cheaper...

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