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Thread: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    After Cats, Ecigs are tied for second place with GPS navigators for the best things that ever happened for me.

    I vape everywhere but very discreetly and I bother nobody nor have I been addressed over the issue. You can not police vaping because there is no evidence. But that doesn't mean you need to be a showoff either.

    Theoretically, the gubmint should love Ecigs because die-hard smokers like me finally quit making smoke clouds. But we must have more rules. So, they are in conflict with themselves. Idiots.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Oh yeah, leave it to today's generation to start a new shop you can waste your parents money in.
    Very strange?

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So tell us why you started smoking.
    We'd been training in the field for two weeks with another couple weeks to go. MREs were in short supply, it was cold and everyone was out of dry uniforms. We were really at the edge of exhaustion. Of course, we still had to pull guard duty, which meant waking up in the middle of the night to pull guard for a couple hours and then trying to grab an hour or two of sleep before move/ambush in the morning. I was so cold and so miserable.

    The guy who woke me up for my shift offered me a cig. He said it would make me feel warm and it would help me stay awake for my shift. Well, it did. I got through that guard shift with no problem and used a cig each following night to fend off shaking from the cold and falling asleep from exhaustion.

    Then I would smoke when drinking at bars.

    Then I would smoke all the time.

    Almost 20 years went by, smoking.


    E-cigs ended cigs for me, and they've ended cigs for a few of my friends.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 03-15-14 at 05:57 AM.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    It isn't my business, your business, or certainly not the gubmint's business, what people put in their bodies.
    And that's really what it comes down to. Unfortunately, in our NSA days, everything is everyone's business it seems. Can't do **** in this country anymore because everything is a lawsuit or a law.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And that's really what it comes down to. Unfortunately, in our NSA days, everything is everyone's business it seems. Can't do **** in this country anymore because everything is a lawsuit or a law.
    If the health of the population is not the govt. business then what is? It seems to me there is no country without people.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If the health of the population is not the govt. business then what is? It seems to me there is no country without people.
    A government which does not ban the sale of alcohol and tobacco has no business whatsoever banning or over-regulating vaporizers.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    A government which does not ban the sale of alcohol and tobacco has no business whatsoever banning or over-regulating vaporizers.
    Of course not. E-cigs save lives and that is why the FDA is allowing them. Cities that ban them are bowing to pressure from big tobacco and loss of tax money.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So tell us why you started smoking.
    Other people seemed to enjoy it so I tried it and found it to be quite a relaxing ritual of relaxation. It's the additives that make them so toxic so now I alternate between vape and pure tobacco leaf no-additive American Spirit cigs. There's no question that not smoking at all is the optimum choice for your health, but there are plenty of people with high IQ's who choose to smoke.
    There are none so blind as those who choose not to see....

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Other people seemed to enjoy it so I tried it and found it to be quite a relaxing ritual of relaxation. It's the additives that make them so toxic so now I alternate between vape and pure tobacco leaf no-additive American Spirit cigs. There's no question that not smoking at all is the optimum choice for your health, but there are plenty of people with high IQ's who choose to smoke.
    I don't consider "subject to coercion easily" as a high-IQ endeavor.

    Good thing your buddies didn't convince you to start cutting or knock off a liquor store.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Of course not. E-cigs save lives and that is why the FDA is allowing them. Cities that ban them are bowing to pressure from big tobacco and loss of tax money.
    The FDA didn't want to allow them. The FDA initially caused large shipments of vaporizers and associated to be held up in customs because they classified them as unapproved medical devices. It was only after they lost in Federal court for failing to prove harm that they were forced to "allow" their importation and sale.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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