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  • They're a public nuisance.

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  • They should be outlawed.

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  • They should be regulated heavier.

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  • E-cig's, no big deal.

    22 62.86%
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Thread: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You can burn up any currency toward a label such as "smart" by doing something as monumentally stupid as taking up smoking.
    Whatever you say Gipper. Intelligence has nothing to do with IQ, education or knowledge so long as you've engaged in an impulsive behavior once.

    You who give people a pass when "exactly how many health problems it contributed to wasn't fully realized" as if intelligent people didn't KNOW just as well then as they do now that its harmful to your health.

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    You don't get a pass if you quote Nietzche between drags. We're not talking about an expensive, deadly, debilitating habit picked up through ignorance. Deliberate and willful performance of an action like this will automatically shuffle someone to the "stupid" section of the room.
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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Whatever you say Gipper. Intelligence has nothing to do with IQ, education or knowledge so long as you've engaged in an impulsive behavior once.

    You who give people a pass when "exactly how many health problems it contributed to wasn't fully realized" as if intelligent people didn't KNOW just as well then as they do now that its harmful to your health.
    I don't believe that they did. I mean, I don't believe that anyone thought cigarettes to be "healthy", but I'd be willing to bet that they weren't aware of 90% of the potential health disasters cigarettes are linked to today. Once the Surgeon General warning became common in print and studies were linked openly, the idea that it was "worth the risk" became laughable.

    My dad's generation...sure, I'll give them a pass. My generation? No.

    Tell you what - if you can give me ONE legitimate reason to be under 25 and addicted to cigarettes, I'll concede the entire argument to you. One.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well. Leave it to assholes to find a way to abuse something for their own pleasure. Chicago has banned ecigarettes indoors. I guess that's the reason. I don't think they should be outlawed if they're used in the way they were intended. But selling nicotine on the side? Throw that guy in jail.
    I am not understanding what you are saying here. Are people who use e-cigarettes indoors abusing 'something'? What was the way they were intended to be used? What are you referring to when you say 'selling nicotine on the side'?
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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    No big deal. I woul prefer them over cigarette smoke when being around other people in public any day.
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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't believe that they did. I mean, I don't believe that anyone thought cigarettes to be "healthy", but I'd be willing to bet that they weren't aware of 90% of the potential health disasters cigarettes are linked to today. Once the Surgeon General warning became common in print and studies were linked openly, the idea that it was "worth the risk" became laughable.

    My dad's generation...sure, I'll give them a pass. My generation? No.

    Tell you what - if you can give me ONE legitimate reason to be under 25 and addicted to cigarettes, I'll concede the entire argument to you. One.
    Surely the reason is 'addictive' personalities? It's not by accident that a great many addicts of any kind, go on to be addicted to something else once they kick the original vice (whatever that may be).

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Surely the reason is 'addictive' personalities? It's not by accident that a great many addicts of any kind, go on to be addicted to something else once they kick the original vice (whatever that may be).

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I am not understanding what you are saying here. Are people who use e-cigarettes indoors abusing 'something'? What was the way they were intended to be used? What are you referring to when you say 'selling nicotine on the side'?
    Did you read the opening post??

    On the edge of the SoHo neighborhood downtown, The Henley Vaporium is an intimate hipster hangout with overstuffed chairs, exposed brick, friendly counter help — but no booze.

    Instead, the proprietors are peddling e-cigarettes, along with bottles of liquid nicotine ready to be plucked from behind a wooden bar and turned into flavorful vapor for a lung hit with a kick that is intended to simulate traditional smoking.

    "Vaping," has had astonishing growth — in just eight years or so, the number of enthusiasts around the world has grown from a few thousand to millions.

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Did you read the opening post??
    Sorry, I did miss that, thank you for responding. Everything makes sense now
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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Sorry, I did miss that, thank you for responding. Everything makes sense now
    Wait you didnt read the OP? Lol I do that sometimes too our secret though

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    Re: E-cigarettes: fresh air or smoke and mirrors?

    I use vapor myself. But I went with being regulated heavier.

    There should be oversight to ensure they contain only the listed ingredients and that the nicotine level is actually what they say.

    Other than that, who cares. It is definitely far better than smoking and for some of us, there is an actual benefit to nicotine.
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