View Poll Results: Is Palin right, should Obama use the threat of nukes to stop Putin?

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  • Yes, Palin was right, threaten and use nuclear weapons to Putin in Crimea crisis

    2 3.03%
  • No, Palin is wrong, threatening with nukes is insane

    37 56.06%
  • Yes, sadly Palin is not VP/President or Putin would now be a glowstick/dead

    1 1.52%
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    21 31.82%
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Thread: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What a grossly dishonest OP statement and poll. Only a truly simple mind or an a blind partisan (which are the same in my book) would interpret her statement as equating to calling for a nuclear attack against Russia.

    Only nuclear powers can stand up to other nuclear powers in high stakes military relevant poker games. That's why Russia could invade Ukraine and can not invade our or our bases.

    If we put just 100 USA troops in Ukraine's holding-out base in Crimea the entire game changes. If we moved aircraft and missiles into Europe, particularly small anti-air and anti-mechanized missiles - indicating we are preparing to provide those to locals and Eastern Europeans and Ukraine Muslims that also be playing some serious cards. To draw a battleline, Russia has to use Russians. We don't have to us USA troops in response. There are millions of people in that region who don't kill Russians only because they don't have the means to do so. We have piles of that hardware.

    Its a big deal for Russians to start attacking American troops, because we both got nukes. Since this is on Russia's border, not ours, their risks of conventional style killing is greater. We both understand what escalation ultimately leads to.

    Obama doesn't know how to play poker. Putin does.

    This also is why we know that Obama has already agreed to give Putin Crimea in his secret long phone call. Now it will all just be words on top of words - all meaning nothing - until everyone tires of the topic and loses interests.
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    She drive liberals nutz...

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If you watched the video of her speaking, you would see that clearly was not her message.
    Then what is the reference to "the only way to stop a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"? Well, maybe she then wants Putin to stop Obama from destroying America with Obamacare, after watching that love fest for Putin last week on Fox (seen it on Daily Show, I know it is a biased selection of clips that may not be the overall opinion on Fox regarding Putin but they cannot claim they did not say some of these things), one might infer that .
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Then what is the reference to "the only way to stop a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"? Well, maybe she then wants Putin to stop Obama from destroying America with Obamacare, after watching that love fest for Putin last week on Fox (seen it on Daily Show, I know it is a biased selection of clips that may not be the overall opinion on Fox regarding Putin but they cannot claim they did not say some of these things), one might infer that .
    Very simplistic view.

    Let me try to simply it. Only a person with a gun can stop another person with a gun. Doesn't mean you have to shoot the person to stop them. That's why, for example, I can not recall anyone trying to mug or rob a cop - even if the mugger or robber is armed.

    But, to your mind, having a gun for self defense means you are going to shoot someone because you have it.

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Then what is the reference to "the only way to stop a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"? Well, maybe she then wants Putin to stop Obama from destroying America with Obamacare, after watching that love fest for Putin last week on Fox (seen it on Daily Show, I know it is a biased selection of clips that may not be the overall opinion on Fox regarding Putin but they cannot claim they did not say some of these things), one might infer that .
    Watch the video.

    I hope you don't think the edited clips out of context on the Daily Show is accurate...

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    One of the surprising revelations learned when the Cold War ended was that Russia was terrified of a US first strike, while in having no first strike plan of their own. Since we used atomic bombs in the past and given how volatile and erratic our politics can be, they thought we might do it. And for that, they always backed down. But that fear also motivated our allies too. They didn't want nuclear war either. So everyone within and without Russia would urge Russia it cool it because who the hell knows that those Americans are going to do if they get too worked up.

    Now Russia/Putin knows we aren't going to do jack**** no matter what they do other than whine and bitch for a while. Because of that Putin has all the cards and Obama/the USA has none.

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    LOL...

    I'm watching the complete video now of Sarah. She's great. Liberals, please don't watch. She will melt your brain.

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I agree with you, you cannot use the ultimate weapon just because people in the Crimea (which is mostly Russians) might want to belong to Russia one cannot use nukes. This could create a war in which millions of innocent people will die.
    With the Obama just got punked, he got to do something mantra and the WWRRD mantra going on with republicans it leads me to believe that is what they want.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Using nuclear weapons would be the stupidest thing any nation could do. We still live in a world of mutually assured destruction. No nation should ever cross that line. There is nothing worthwhile to gain and everything important to lose.
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    Re: Drop a nuclear bomb on Russia to stop the Crimea from becoming part of Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Using nuclear weapons would be the stupidest thing any nation could do. We still live in a world of mutually assured destruction. No nation should ever cross that line. There is nothing worthwhile to gain and everything important to lose.
    The premise in the OP is at fault. Sarah never implied such a thing, but that how the media portrayed it, and how lemmings believe BS. that's why I posted the link to Sarah speaking as CPAC. Have a look yourself. Post number 9. Start the video at 22 minutes.

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