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  • Hijacked and landed, demands forthcoming.

    7 14.58%
  • Blown up in midair.

    14 29.17%
  • Critical structural failure leading to a crash.

    14 29.17%
  • Alien abduction...a new bremuda triangle.

    8 16.67%
  • Bad seafood served...pilots incapacitated.

    4 8.33%
  • You're nuts....this is what actually happened.

    1 2.08%
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Thread: Where is the plane?

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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The only reason why it had any credibillity is the fact that crew members reported it including flight crew and the Airline VP.

    Pilots aren't ones to make up stories about ghost Captians but at least two, on two seperate aircraft that had components used from that L1011 did report seeing those pilots.

    Eastern twound up removing the components that were salvaged and refused to address the issue after that.
    Trust me, I know enough pilots that are raving lunatics! Most are good at one thing, flying, but tend not to be the most rational people otherwise, and don't get me started on Flight Attendants..LOL

    It was a good story, made a nice TV movie with Ernest Borgnine, but, I don't believe any of it.


    BTW, the L1011 was a great plane, but timing killed it, a strike by Rolls Royce put them behind the DC-10, and the spike in fuel killed sales. PSA actually flew them from LAX and SAN to SFO, complete with a lounge that was in the lower area of the front of the plane, under the cockpit. None are flying commercially anymore, but, Orbital Sciences has one that they use as an airborne rocket launcher...which is cool!
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    The Chinese envied the Bermuda Triangle so they created their own Spratly Triangle in order to rival the US in the supernatural phenomena field. Chinese hegemony.
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Trust me, I know enough pilots that are raving lunatics! Most are good at one thing, flying, but tend not to be the most rational people otherwise, and don't get me started on Flight Attendants..LOL

    It was a good story, made a nice TV movie with Ernest Borgnine, but, I don't believe any of it.
    Yea Ive met a few myself.

    I used to be work as a Mechanic when I got out of High School.

    The thing about pilots is they are born to fly. Literally, its all they want to do.

    Its a obsession with them and it has to be because its hard work and allot of money getting the hours needed to get into a Big Carrier like United.

    I used to run around with the guys that were flying junk Cessna 310s hauling mail to dallas from Houston.
    They slept in the Hangers and FBOs and ths nasty little pilot houses where they could rent a bed and get a shower.

    But they didnt care. They just wanted to fly.
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea Ive met a few myself.

    I used to be work as a Mechanic when I got out of High School.

    The thing about pilots is they are born to fly. Literally, its all they want to do.

    Its a obsession with them and it has to be because its hard work and allot of money getting the hours needed to get into a Big Carrier like United.

    I used to run around with the guys that were flying junk Cessna 310s hauling mail to dallas from Houston.
    They slept in the Hangers and FBOs and ths nasty little pilot houses where they could rent a bed and get a shower.

    But they didnt care. They just wanted to fly.
    I used to help hire them, getting the hours was tough for them, especially working at a commuter for $20,000 a year flying. Once they are in, provided their company doesn't go under they are set, the union keeps them in the job. But, there are some real psycho pilots out there, google the FedEx hijacking by a former pilot...scary scary stuff. And the PSA crash with the Bae 146 was a fired employee who went in and shot both pilots in the head and crashed the plane...
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    I used to help hire them, getting the hours was tough for them, especially working at a commuter for $20,000 a year flying. Once they are in, provided their company doesn't go under they are set, the union keeps them in the job. But, there are some real psycho pilots out there, google the FedEx hijacking by a former pilot...scary scary stuff. And the PSA crash with the Bae 146 was a fired employee who went in and shot both pilots in the head and crashed the plane...
    We had a Lear 23 or 25, I cant remember but it was a air ambulance hangered at our FBO.

    It had a little jump seat, and I knew the pilots well enough and once in a while I would fly out to dallas with them.

    Well on the way back once the left engine stalled and I wasn't paying attention until the jet started to rotate towards the Dead Engine.

    I figured one engines still lit, but they acted like we were going down.

    No calls to the last tower or anything but they were pretty convincing and we were losing altitude fast.

    So right when they had me convinced the Captain reaches over and restarts the left engine.

    And they both start cracking up. ( assholes )

    He looked back and told me the left likes to flame out when we exceed our recomended cruising altitude.

    So I said " why would you exceed your recommend cruising altitude ? "

    He said " We were bored and we wanted to f*** with your head ".....

    Jackasses.
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Trust me, I know enough pilots that are raving lunatics! Most are good at one thing, flying, but tend not to be the most rational people otherwise, and don't get me started on Flight Attendants..LOL

    It was a good story, made a nice TV movie with Ernest Borgnine, but, I don't believe any of it.


    BTW, the L1011 was a great plane, but timing killed it, a strike by Rolls Royce put them behind the DC-10, and the spike in fuel killed sales. PSA actually flew them from LAX and SAN to SFO, complete with a lounge that was in the lower area of the front of the plane, under the cockpit. None are flying commercially anymore, but, Orbital Sciences has one that they use as an airborne rocket launcher...which is cool!
    Yea it was. They dubbed it the " WhisperLiner"
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    We had a Lear 23 or 25, I cant remember but it was a air ambulance hangered at our FBO.

    It had a little jump seat, and I knew the pilots well enough and once in a while I would fly out to dallas with them.

    Well on the way back once the left engine stalled and I wasn't paying attention until the jet started to rotate towards the Dead Engine.

    I figured one engines still lit, but they acted like we were going down.

    No calls to the last tower or anything but they were pretty convincing and we were losing altitude fast.

    So right when they had me convinced the Captain reaches over and restarts the left engine.

    And they both start cracking up. ( assholes )

    He looked back and told me the left likes to flame out when we exceed our recomended cruising altitude.

    So I said " why would you exceed your recommend cruising altitude ? "

    He said " We were bored and we wanted to f*** with your head ".....

    Jackasses.
    I only got to jumpseat once, saved my trip. I went around the world in 3 weeks, and I was trying to fly Prague to Frankfurt to Luxemborg. Flight was full out of Prague, so they said, "do you mind sitting in the cockpit jumpseat?"

    They didn't have to ask me twice, Lufthansa A320.

    I did get to sit jumpseat for takeoff and about 30 minutes in a RC-135 (707 with big new engines) on a National Guard refueler. The flight over we refueled a B2 Stealth bomber. So cool to see one from 20 feet away, mid-air!
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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I see what you're saying, NL, but there are a lot of variables at play here. No phone calls made? None? And the black box fails? And the locator fails? And no mayday calls were made? And on top of all of this -- no trace of the flight whatsoever, even though 22 countries are now currently looking for any kind of debris?

    So many failures at one time - that's just too hard to believe that it's just a coincidence.
    You've obviously never been to east and southeast asia. Technology there is shoddy at best, Japan being the exception. China doesn't even report how many of its domestic aircraft go down every year, it's a state secret.

    Yes, that many failures can happen at once in a part of the world where oversight and regulation are not en par with the western world's. An electrical failure with an outdated independent backup is all that would be required for the locator to go offline.

    Without the locator signal, searching every square foot of ocean will require visual tracking with the human eye which is already a difficult task if the ocean is calm.

    I'm just using occam's razor. Why jump to some ET explanation when we don't have all the facts yet.

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    Re: Where is the plane?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    The missing 777-200 from Thailand to China is a mystery....and I would love to hear everyone's theories.


    I'll supply a few....but please add.
    The fact that there were no calls indicating trouble leads me to believe some type of instant disaster.

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    Re: Where is the plane?

    The plane was brought down by SPECTRE, is now at the bottom of the ocean, and they're sending frogmen to recover the two nuclear warh...,oh, wait. That can't be right. Sorry, I've watched too many Bond films.
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